Quote (carmel @ Feb. 28 2014,01:07)THE WORD WAS GOD!No Charles,Because the Word was “brought forth”, remember? And “God” can never be said to have been “brought forth” at any time by anyone.

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 27 2014,12:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2014,06:02)Can you find an example of an abstract quality or attribute, like “love”, that has a concrete thing as IT'S own attribute?Mike,It is done in poetry but I am not sure about normal conversation.Quote Love is Flesh and Love is Flowers Here is another way of using the same…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Feb. 27 2014,09:19)Tigger2,FIRST AND FORMOST JEHOVAH IS NOT GOD'S NAME!Charles,1. What do YOU think the proper name of God Almighty is?2. Why do you say with such certainty that it is not “Jehovah”?

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 27 2014,04:21)Mike B.If Jehovah God was brought forth;Who brought Him forth?Now you're thinking, Wakeup.On the other hand, if the Word was brought forth, who brought him forth?

Quote (carmel @ Feb. 27 2014,01:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2014,12:03)But you're a Trinitarian, right?  So maybe YOU can explain to us how a person can use brilliant reasoning to deduce that a thing is “BLACK”, and then two minutes later conclude that the thing is “WHITE” anyway.  Because I sure can't figure it out.   Mike,WELL DONE RE…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Feb. 27 2014,00:53)PROVE THAT BY ACCEPTING:The Word of God was “the firstborn of every creature”, WHICH ALSO I AM CONVINCED ABOUT!ASSERT THAT THE WORD OF GOD WAS CREATED, FIRST!That is the most logical meaning of “firstborn of every creature”.But it is not JUST Colossians 1:16, Charles.  It is the fact that Jesus was “the…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Feb. 27 2014,00:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2014,11:07)Was Jehovah God Almighty ever “brought forth”?  YES or NO?Mike,I REPEAT:PROVE THAT BROUGHT FORTH MEANS THAT IT NEVER HAD AN EXISTENCE, BEFORE IT WAS BROUGHT FORTH!Peace and love in JesusCharles,It's not up to me to prove a negative, Charles.  You must prove the p…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 27 2014,07:53)and let us stick to the topic mike, we want to make this topic clear…………I thought that WAS on topic, jammin.Who is The Word?Is he Jesus? Yes.Is he the very God he was with? No.

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 27 2014,00:06)Mike B.I am still waiting for thenine verses out of your bible.Just quote them out of your own bible.wakeup.Wakeup,1. I use MANY different English Bibles.2. NO, I won't do this nine at a time. I will do it one at a time so you can show me one at a time that each verse says that God created evil.Your first…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 27 2014,12:36)President Obama has grandeur of a sort and still is a human being.President Obama never started glowing as bright as the sun.I believe that God was allowing those disciples a “sneak peek” at Jesus' future glory and condition.You seem to believe that God made Jesus glow as bright as the sun for no purpose…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 27 2014,12:58)Mike,Before God spoke his word to his angels and they carried out his commands……….But God created the angels THROUGH His Word, right? What or who was “The Word” before there were any angels for God to speak to?Also, your last post seems to support your previous one in that you believe that the man Jesus…[Read more]

Although I barely had a clue what on earth you guys were talking about, you can't argue with that last link you provided, t8.It seems you are definitely not alone.Thanks for all the hard work and time and money you devote to HN.

Hi Wakeup,I just spent 15 minutes refuting the things you said in your previous post.  But then I thought things were getting too drawn out.  And I know I'll never get to the bottom of ANYTHING with you if we keep touching just the surface of EVERYTHING. So I deleted the post.It's time to slow it down, and get to the BOTTOM of these things – o…[Read more]

Wakeup,HOW did God's Word create the heavens and the earth? BY WHAT METHOD did God's Word create these things?

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 26 2014,18:40)AND WHAT GOD KNOWS IT SAYS HE KNEW SINS THE BEGINNING(AND IN THE BEGINNING THEIR WAS NO MEN )THEN WHAT SHOULD WE SAY THAT HE FOREKNOW ALL THINGS BECAUSE OF HIS POWER AND KNOWLEDGE AND CREATION OF ALL THINGS ? IF YOU SAY YES THEN MEN HAVE THE SAME POWER AS GOD RIGHT No Pierre…….. WRONG.The fact that GOD…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 26 2014,07:57)Quote (jammin @ Feb. 25 2014,14:05) ill post again what wallace said…… Its lack of a definite article keeps us from identifying the person of the Word (Jesus Christ) with the person of “God” (the Father).yes he is not GOD the father. that is what wallace trying to portrait.jammin,Read that first statement fro…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 26 2014,06:57)Carmel.You hit the nail on the head.Hey Wakeup,What's YOUR answer to that question I asked Charles two posts ago?

Quote (carmel @ Feb. 26 2014,00:32)SO HOW ON EARTH YOU ARE SO CORRUPTED TO SAY  THAT THE WORD OF GOD HAD A BEGINNING ONLY WHEN IT CAME FORTH! FROM GOD'S MOST HOLY, AND POWERFUL MOUTH?Charles,The Word of God was “the firstborn of every creature”, “the beginning of the creation of God”, “created as the first of God's works”, and his “origins are…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Feb. 26 2014,00:32)MIke,PROVE THAT BROUGHT FORTH MEANS THAT IT NEVER HAD AN EXISTENCE, BEFORE IT WAS BROUGHT FORTH!Charles,Was Jehovah God Almighty ever “brought forth”? YES or NO?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 20 2014,17:58)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 19 2014,16:19)1. I know ahead of time, when my sons become teenagers, that at some point and to some degree they will depart the ways they have been taught when finding their own way in the world. t8,1.  There is no way you can KNOW that your sons will rebel.  For all we know, Christ could c…[Read more]