Kathi?  Hello?

Hi Danny.  Yes, I have gone round and round with Adam over the erroneous claims about “El” and “Yahweh” in those articles he copies and pastes.  There are also people who seriously believe that “Yahweh” in the OT sometimes refers to God, and other times to Satan.

I just stick to what the scriptures actually teach, and do my best to refute that o…[Read more]

Proclaimer: So gadam.

What is your new no1 flat earth verse?

I wait with bated breath.

Hey Adam, hit him with Gen 7:1 (“the floodgates of heaven were opened”) and Gen 8:2 (“the floodgates of heaven were closed, and the rain from heaven stopped”), because it’s funny to watch him try to explain the floodgates of heaven as clouds.

Adam:  The continued existence of planet earth in its current form is evidence that the sun did not stand still for a day (Joshua 10:13). Science says it would be enormously destructive for the earth to cease rotating on its axis.

Proclaimer: Read this from the Smithsonian where they contemplate that the sun stopping also fits with the sun not s…

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Adam: There were day and night, separated by evening, before the sun existed…

Proclaimer: Later in day 4 where you incorrectly place the sun, is then talking about the sky and the placement of the sun and moon. 

Don’t you mean “where THE BIBLE incorrectly places the CREATION and placement of the sun into the firmament”?

You’re not arguing a…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  …here is a diagram showing daylight hours during the Southern Hemisphere’s summer solstice / northern hemisphere’s winter solstice…  I couldn’t find a suitable night time diagram using this projection.

Here’s the nighttime projection on the southern winter solstice (your longest night of the year)…

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Proclaimer:  Anyway, what is the biggest outstanding question or assertion you have and I will answer.

I assert that your meme with three people supposedly all looking north and seeing the southern cross at the same time is rubbish, since it could never be nighttime in all three places at once.

What is your answer?

LU:  If you don’t think that YHVH is Jesus’ Father’s name, then who is Jesus referring to as his father in John 17?

Kathi, the point is that EVERYONE knew that Jesus was referring to Yahweh as both his own God and heavenly Father and our God and heavenly Father.

It’s not like when Jesus claimed to be the messiah/son of God, they all wonder…[Read more]

LU:  Yes that works for that verse.

So in one day you’ve failed the world’s easiest math quiz, the world’s easiest comprehension test, and now the world’s easiest grammar test?  Wow!

Kathi, do you REALLY believe that “their belly is their belly” is the the correct meaning?  REALLY?  Come on, now. 😅

LU:  Let’s not pretend that I haven’t posted those verses many times as the foundation of my understanding.

Let me rephrase my teaching into questions then.

Does the fact that Jesus (in Rev 17:44), Nebuchadnezzar (in Daniel 2:37), and Artaxerxes (in Ezra 7:12) are all called King of kings NECESSARILY mean that they are part of some “Unity Entity…[Read more]

LU:  In Phil 3:19 god =belly or physical appetite for food.

Let’s see…

Philippians 3:19… their god is their belly…

Kathi’s definitions:

1.  their belly is their belly
2.  their physical appetite for food is their belly

Do they work, Kathi?

Mike: Both questions require a yes or a no, Kathi.  And no, “el” is not “one of God’s literal names”.  El means god, and god is a title, not a literal personal name.  We can address Joe Biden as “President” or “Mr. President”, and people in America would know who we’re talking about, but “president” is not one of Biden’s literal names.  It…

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LU:  Whenever Jesus referred to Yahweh as his father, he identifies his father’s name to his followers. For instance, when he was 12 years old and stayed behind from the caravan and was found teaching in the temple, Jesus identified who his Father was…Yahweh. He said that he was in his father’s house which they knew as Yahweh’s house…and so on.…

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LU: Mike,

Paul would give the same answer.

I’m not sure what you’re talking about, or why you would presume to know what Paul may or may not have done in any particular situation.

LU: You mean like this:

Deut 10:17 For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who does not show partiality, nor take a bribe.

Rev 17:14 These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him…

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LU:  Very good. I call Jesus the only begotten Son of God too.

Yes I know.  Unfortunately, one of us is apparently oblivious to the FACT that the Son OF God cannot very well BE the very God that he is the Son OF – and therefore, if the son of God in question is a god at all, he must NECESSARILY be a DIFFERENT god.

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Mike: Kathi, do YOU think the word “name” in John 17:26 refers to God’s literal name?

LU: Yes.

Really?  In what NT scripture can I read this literal name of God as Jesus was making it known to his followers?

LU:  I already answered the second question in that post, btw.

No you didn’t, actually.  Here’s what I asked…

Mike:  Exodus 23:20-22……

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LU: #1. c

#2. none of the above, there is one God and one Lord. Yahweh is both God and Lord.

One correct, the other blatantly incorrect.  That’s a 50% grade, which is an F.  You have failed a very simple math quiz, Kathi.  That’s how far from reality your bizarre doctrine has led you.  Shame.

LU:  I’m not rewriting a verse, I’m summing up several Biblical concepts.

I think Berean was asking why you can’t do your summing up using the same TERMS and PHRASES the Bible uses – instead of inventing your own terminology and phraseology.

Terms like “Godhead” and “Yahweh Unity” are not in any scripture.  He’s asking why you would use such…[Read more]

Two posts above this one, I asked my next new “Must Answer” question to you.  The following is not a new question, but one of my previous “Must Answer” questions that you didn’t reasonably answer.  You’ll need to answer it along with the new “Must Answer” question from two posts above this one (Post #932540).
PROCLAIMER, DOES THE PLURAL WORD “…[Read more]