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Gene:  Ppoclaimer…….Please change  Biblical Cosmology,   to “Mikeboll64’s, beliefs in a,  “flat earth”.  Lest anyone think we and this site, have anything to do with it.

 

Pretender: DONE!

 

See?  You ARE the left. 😂  This thread is about Biblical Cosmology.  We’ve been asking you questions about the shape (and age) of our world as related t…[Read more]

Pretender:  The earth is a globe and the bible doesn’t teach a flat world.

Will you state for the record that you believe that the people who wrote the Bible knew all along that we lived on a spinning ball orbiting the sun, but for some reason, people didn’t even think about that until Copernicus 500 years ago, and actually start to believe it 10…[Read more]

Pretender: Thank you for attempting to address this, rather than ignore it.

Are you suggesting that every silly meme you take 3 seconds to paste onto this thread is a “challenge” to me that I must directly address?  Hmm…  Does that work both ways?

Pretender:  Next Step:
All you need to understand now is that the you are inside the atm…

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Pretender:

Now take the walls and the roof off the train to make a fair comparison since the “ball earth” doesn’t have walls and a roof,.

Does it still work?  Of course not.  But this is the level of your ignorance.  You post silly memes as if they mean something when if you’d just take one minute to think the meme through for yo…[Read more]

Gene:  Ppoclaimer…….Please change  Biblical Cosmology,   to “Mikeboll64’s, beliefs in a,  “flat earth”.

Gene, please be a MAN and directly and honestly address my Biblical questions – instead of the scared little girl you’ve so far proven yourself to be.

Besides, do you think I hide from my Biblical Earth views?  I created a YouTube channel 5…[Read more]

Pretender:  Imagine if Jesus disciples went around saying what you just said. They would have created a short-lived cult rather than the church.

You mean the disciples who knew about Neb’s dream of a tree so tall it could be seen from the entire flat plane – and about Jesus’ own account of Satan taking him to the top of a very high mountain from…[Read more]

Mike: Genesis 1:7… Thus God made the raqia, and divided the waters which were under the raqia from the waters which were above the raqia.

Very simple question:  Does this scripture say there are waters above the raqia itself?  Yes or No?

 

Pretender:  If the biblical word can only mean ‘above’ then yes, the scripture would be stating tha…

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Proclaimer: He may be right or wrong … Webb Telescope has not imaged a water layer outside the cosmos itself. If that happens, then I could be definite in my answer. 

That’s what this Bible Vs Scientism debate was for, Proclaimer.  I wanted you to just come out and declare for the record that your ultimate authority is not God’s written word, b…[Read more]

Pretender: He would be right if we are talking about the first heaven…

And what does the context tell us?  He has intentionally broken the psalm up into “things of heaven” and “thing of earth”.  The sun, moon, stars and waters above the heavens are all listed in the “things of heaven” category, while he lists clouds, not only in the “things of…[Read more]

Mike:  The sun, moon and stars are IN the raqia, and the waters above are ABOVE the entire raqia.

 

Proclaimer:  Nope.

Okay, here we go again…

Genesis 1:7… Thus God made the raqia, and divided the waters which were under the raqia from the waters which were above the raqia.

Very simple question:  Does this scripture say there are waters ab…[Read more]

Mike:  Okay, then you ARE saying he is right.  Great.  Then please tell us what and where these waters above the heavens are.  Thanks.

 

Pretender:  Nope. I am reminding you that you need to be careful about establishing doctrine from such words.

Actually, you’re trying to stall.  Just tell me plainly if the writer of Psalm 148 was right or wr…[Read more]

Pretender:  <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>I win, you lose.</span>

Really?

Mike:  <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>Here’s a way you and I can actually have a respectable discussion about this issue.</span>

Pretender:  <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>NO!  I’m not interested in an actual discussion about it because you’ll likely expose my premise as fla…[Read more]

Pretender:  I am stating that men say things in the bible that are not true…

We’re talking about a writer OF scripture making HIS OWN claim about our Biblical earth.  We’re NOT talking about a writer of scripture QUOTING Satan or someone else telling a lie.

You are trying to conflate the two, and I’m merely exposing your flawed plan.

So f…[Read more]

Pretender:  Personally speaking, and God is my witness, my opinion was the raqia being most likely the first and second heaven.

Okay.  I guess it’s fine by me if you want to think the ONE raqia is BOTH the first AND second heavens.  Just remember that it still all boils down to one very simple thing…

The sun, moon and stars are IN the raqia, an…[Read more]

Pretender:  Blah, blah, blah… bring back the sun… blah, blah, blah.

I’ve explained my rules, right?  You refused to follow them, right?  The subject is closed UNTIL you follow those rules.  End of story.

Pretender: Recording what a person says does not make the bible wrong.

The Pharisees said, “Jesus uses the power of Beelzebul to force demons out of people.

And what’s wrong about that Biblical statement above?  Are you arguing that the Pharisees DIDN’T say what the Bible records them as saying?

Pretender:  You are lacking in critical thin…

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Pretender:  Blah, blah blah… bring back the sun… blah, blah, blah.

You know my rules.  Get to it or leave it alone.

Mike:  “The heavens declare the glory of God… AND… THE raqia shows His handiwork.”

 

Proclaimer:  If the raqia is called heaven, but lets say specifically a part of the heavens, then good.

Notice how you’re speaking scripturally now.  You’re correctly calling it THE raqia, and distinguishing it FROM “the heavens” in general by acknowledg…[Read more]

Mike:  I’ve already addressed this many times.  Find one of those posts, QUOTE what I said to you, and then respond to what I said.  You do it that way, and I’m happy to have a lengthy and respectable discussion about this issue.

 

Proclaimer:  Nope…

Suit yourself.  The three people who read this thread (out of the 5 total members of this for…[Read more]