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    Death to EIG! :)What about GoDaddy? :D

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 02 2014,23:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2014,22:58)So who is it that rides the white horse in Rev 19?  Jesus?  Or God's Word?Mike,It is Jesus, who is called Faithful and True and who is also called by the name of the Word of God.  Jesus personalizes all three.Revelation 19:13 says “The Word of God” rides that horse, Ke…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 02 2014,23:07)John 14:101599 Geneva Bible (GNV)10 Believest thou not, that I am in the Father, and the Father is in me? The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.Before God's Word did not go through Jesus but in these last days it goes through Jesus be it an…[Read more]

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    But Nick,You and I agree that the Spirit is never a separate thing from God. That is not the case with the literal words of God, nor with Jesus, who is called “The Word of God”.There are some similarities – but those only take you so far. In the end, it is clear that while the Holy Spirit remains endlessly connected to God Himself, the Word did…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 02 2014,22:53)Hi Guys,“Then THE WORD of the LORD came to me, saying”  (Jer 18:5)Who came to the prophet Jeremiah?  The “Spirit of God” or “Jesus”?1. Spirit of God2. Jesus3.  The literal words/commands/instructions of God.Remember that GOD spoke to the fathers and prophets of old in many various ways. Sometimes an angel br…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2014,09:35)Hi MB, The Word was of God and was God.The Spirit is of God and is God.I see your point, Nick. I see the similarities now. But will that point continue through with all the things said about “the Word”?In the beginning was the Spirit of God. And the Spirit was WITH God, and the Spirit was God.Can we say…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 02 2014,12:13)…..it was the same thing with Jesus, God the FATHER was speaking “THROUGH” HIM, and that never made Him those Words himself, or a God of any kind either.I've never thought that Jesus was any of the literal words God spoke, Gene.Do you realize that the King of Abyssinian had a spokesman called “The Word…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2014,16:42)Hi MB, God sends His Spirit. He pours out His Spirit. But His Spirit is never separate from Him.Agreed. That is why Jehovah's Spirit cannot “come back to Him” – because it was never separate from Him in the first place.That is also why God cannot be WITH His Spirit at any time.His Spirit is a part of His…[Read more]

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    Quote (carmel @ Mar. 03 2014,12:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2014,02:34)If God appointed someone as an heir, then it is clear that this “heir” cannot possibly BE the God who appointed him AS an heir.  Again, this is simple common sense.Mike,THAT'S YOUR WORLDLY WISDOM!MIKE WHEN YOU CALL YOURSELF  I AM WOULD  YOU BE REFERRING TO YOUR FLESH BO…[Read more]

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    Quote (carmel @ Mar. 03 2014,12:45)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)wouldn't Lucifer be “the firstborn of every creature”?IN A PARTICULAR WAY HE WAS!  CAN YOU SEE IT?Quote (carmel @ Mar. 03 2014,12:45) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Wouldn't Lucifer be “the beginning of the creation of God”IN A PARTICULAR WAY YES, HE ALSO WAS!Quote (carmel @ Mar. 03 2014,12:45) Quote[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 03 2014,07:59)we know that wallace said Christ is the Word in john 1.1 and you agreed but…did you read the latter part of wallace's statement? he said Christ is God. do you agree?I agree with Wallace's conclusion that the Word is Jesus Christ.  But I didn't learn that from John 1:1.  It is the rest of the first chapter of J…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 02 2014,16:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2014,02:42)There is no teaching that the Word came to be IN Jesus.  Hi Mike, actually there is:”To wit, that GOD was IN Christ,  reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;  and hath committed unto us THE WORD of reconciliation.” (2 Cor 5:1)Hi Ed,The Wo…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 02 2014,13:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2014,21:32)…….the bottom line teaching of what you and your sources have written is that the Word who was with God in the beginning actually BECAME the flesh and blood human being Jesus Christ.Do you agree with that?Mike,Yes, I agree that the word that was God in the beginning…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 02 2014,13:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2014,21:23)……the Word was something OTHER THAN “God”, right?Mike,Yes, I agree with you……… the word is not the God.Well done.

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    Quote (carmel @ Mar. 02 2014,13:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2014,04:15)………then it is indeed HIS WORD that is metaphorically returning to HimMike,THAT IS A REFERENCE TO THE WORD JESUS' SPIRIT, SINCE HE STATED THAT IT WOULD RETURN TO HIM!Peace and love in JesusCharlesI don't believe the Word is “Jesus' Spirit”. But even so, my point was…[Read more]

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    Quote (carmel @ Mar. 02 2014,13:14)Mike,LET'S REFLECT:THE SON WAS IN THE FATHER! BEFORE CREATION!IN ORDER FOR GOD TO CREATE OUR WORLD, THE FATHER CHANGED HIS FUNCTION, AND ENTERED WITHIN THE SON!I'll stop you right there, Charles……… because none of what you've said is taught in any scripture.There is no need to read the rest of the post when…[Read more]

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    Quote (carmel @ Mar. 02 2014,11:47)Mike,TELL ME HOW THE FATHER IS ALSO THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN THE NT!Peace and love in JesusCharlesJesus addresses Him as “the only true God”.  I understand that as an emphatic statement, since the other gods (angels, etc.) are not “false gods”.  They are all real enough, Satan included.But Jesus' words place the F…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 02 2014,11:29)Mike…………None of those is talking about the WILL itself being FREE , it is describing the Liberty to express and exercising our Wills without restraint>  Think about it.Gene,If we have the liberty to express our will without restraint, then we have a free will.

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    Gene, This is still a private thread…… although I've just opened the other private thread with Kerwin to all. The “Spiritual Bodies of 1 Cor 15” is now open to all posters.

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 02 2014,10:10)Hi AllThe scriptures tell us “Jesus has all authority and Power” (Math 28:18)………. How is it that the so-called believers cannot fathom what I just posted?  :)Blessings!KeithMatthew 28:18 NET © Then Jesus came up and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.”[Read more]

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