Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 06 2014,22:03)I am saying the body we now occupy is governed by the soul(1b) but that resurrected body is governed by the spirit.And does that apply also to Jesus? Did Jesus have sinful desires when he was on earth? Or was he (and his body) led by the spirit?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 07 2014,10:03)Mike………The word in 1 Cor 15:44, has nothing to do with a “SPIRIT” Body, because Spirits do not have bodies………Gene,Wakeup just told you what I've told you a hundred times already: The word “spirit” does not always refer to the same thing. Remember that I've told you before that “team spirit”…[Read more]

This thread is now open to all, Wakeup. You are free to post here.

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 08 2014,01:07)Mike B.Quote (mikeboll @ 64)First, there was only God.  Then later, God brought forth a different living, thinking, breathing entity who had a will of his own, but chose to obey the God who brought him forth into existence.NO;  NOT THE WILL OF HIS OWN.But you've said that the Word “obeyed” God, right?The word “…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2014,01:55)God does not need foreseen ,or foreknowledge ;he knows………..Pierre,I've tried my best to get you past this thing that holding you back.If God “knows” what's going to happen, like you've said, then God has “foresight” of what's going to happen.Don't you get it?  To “know” things of the future is the…[Read more]

And that means the Word completely LEFT God for a while, right?

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 06 2014,20:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 07 2014,10:57)One God, but THREE living, thinking entities – each with their own will?Not so Mike;that is how you see it.No, that is how YOU seem to see it, Wakeup.I see it like this:First, there was only God.  Then later, God brought forth a different living, thinking, breathing entity…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2014,20:30)why would God have to foresee in the future when he knows very well the outcome of it allPierre,Saying that God is able to know the outcome is the same thing as saying that God can foresee what will happen.

Gene,This is a private thread! Oh, sorry! Force of habit since you posted so many times when it WAS still a private thread! (Just messin' with ya, brother. )

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2014,20:05)Hi MB, Why rely on men? The Spirit can give you wisdom. God gives wisdom to all who askThe Spirit DOES give me wisdom, Nick. Where do you think the stuff I post comes from?I'm waiting for your list of the “important and necessary” scriptures in the Bible.How many of them are there? 3? Maybe 5 of…[Read more]

jammin,Your post isn't worthy of a response.  Suffice to say that your Mr. Wallace said it right:  John wrote 1:1 in such a way to keep us from identifying the Word with God.Anything else is just your and his additions to what John wrote.Btw, if my father is a man, and if I share his nature, then I am also A man.  I am not the SAME man, or the SA…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 07 2014,15:16)WHEN YOU MAKE USE OF THE FIRST SINGULAR PERSON PRONOUN I,ARE YOU REFERRING TO YOUR BODY, TO YOUR SOUL, OR TO BOTH?My body, my soul, and my spirit, Charles.God has given me a spirit to animate me.  I agree that it continues to belong to God, but He has given it to me as my own for a short while.That's why…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 07 2014,00:36)the name JESUS was given by GABRIEL! Scripture?Quote (carmel @ Mar. 07 2014,00:36)SO JESUS THE SON, SPIRITUALLY, WAS ALWAYS JESUS THE SON FROM ETERNITY IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER!HE SIMPLY WAS NOT YET BEGOTTEN FROM THE FATHER! SPIRITUALLY!Sons don't exist from the same moment as their fathers.  The word “son”…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2014,00:06)Do YOU consider the “AKJV Bible” Scripture?     (YES – NO – I DON'T KNOW)It is one of the hundreds of English translations of the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek scriptures, Ed.For the most part, it does a fine job of translating those scriptures from the original languages, and therefore can be considered as “…[Read more]

I've been seeking through all the scriptures, Nick. But now you've enlightened me about only a few of them being “important”. Why not further enlighten me by telling me exactly which verses of the Bible are “important”? That way I can discard the rest of the scriptures.

God has been teaching me this whole time, Nick…… through various vessels. I don't fight what He has shown me. I only try to share those things with people like you.Btw, your claim that I can't understand spiritual things is as weak as that other Trinitarian claim you make about things not having to make sense to us.Who then, ARE those things…[Read more]

Why not just share with me the “important” scriptures – so I can discard the rest of them.Make me a list of the only “necessary” ones, okay?

Your two statements contradict each other, Nick.God's Spirit is never separate from God, and therefore could never “return to” God.God's Word, on the other hand, is said to have been sent FROM God, and return back TO God.One thing is forever connected to God, and can never leave Him. The other thing is not.I do, however, agree with you that the…[Read more]

So then the entire scriptures are useless to us – except for the part that says we are to believe on Jesus?Strange understanding, Nick.  

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2014,19:26)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2014,11:50)Hi MB, Heb 1.2 “in these last days God has spoken to us in His Son..”Hi MB, The part of a verse shown reveals that God speaks through his Son. That was the point as you thought Jesus was speaking about his flesh self  Here, I'll post it for you:2 but in these last…[Read more]