Proclaimer:  Why don’t flat earthers just build their own one since the globers have rigged every single one in the world and in history. Lol. Is it because you can’t?

Build what, exactly?  A weight hanging from a string that’s attached to our ceiling?  😂  What is your DIRECT and HONEST explanation to the tens of thousands of cranes at thousan…[Read more]

Hi Kathi.  I’ve been trying like heck to get these two questions answered for weeks, to no avail.  Please answer them directly and honestly now.  The red arrow identifies the start of the first question, and the green arrow identifies the start of the second one…

I’m working a 14 hour day tomorrow (Saturday), but will devote Sunday to ad…[Read more]

Proclaimer: Correct me if I am wrong.

1.  In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
(Already created.)

2.  Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. (Further proof that the heavens were already created because it was created along with the e…

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Did anyone else here notice that, after years of staying off this thread, I came back (due to Danny) and addressed some of Proclaimer’s claims recently?

Did anyone else here notice that Proclaimer ignored every single one of my responses – posts that were directly addressed to him and concerned things that HE had claimed?

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Proclaimer:  Wherever you put it, Foucault’s Pendulum swings from a motionless point while the earth rotates beneath it. Every point of the universe is a fixed point. All you have to do is hang the Pendulum from it. Foucault’s pendulum is an easy experiment demonstrating the Earth’s rotation.

True.  That’s why for decades construction workers…[Read more]

Danny: Well, some pilots or maybe some explorer pilots in all our history must have flown to the edge or even beyond the edge.

Explorers have indeed made it to the edge.

Danny:  I will take a look at it. (200 Proofs the Earth is Not a Spinning Ball: http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html )…

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Proclaimer: Are you saying that there is the heavens and earth and the sun, moon, and stars are not part of that description?

Interestingly, that is the very subject of two of my three questions to you today, which expose how your premise is faulty.  I can’t wait to see your answers.

The questions are in posts #932642, #932643, and #932644.  Th…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Yourself and Mike have no explanation.

Let’s see how you do with those first three questions that turn your theory against itself. Then we can continue.

Berean:  LIKE MANY, I CONSIDERED IT COULD BE SUNLIGHT…

It can’t very well be sunlight if the sun didn’t exist until 3 days later.

Proclaimer: So the heavens, earth, light, day, and night were already established. Can you see that?

If so, then what is Day 4 about?

If your premise is flawed, so will be your conclusion.  But we’ll get to that after I see how you address those first three points I made to you today.  (I don’t want to overwhelm you.)

Berean:  I don’t agree on everything with Mike, far from it…

Really Berean?  You had to add “far from it”?  😅😂

Just messing with you.  I believe that we agree on many more things than we disagree on. 🙏

Proclaimer:  Your moon theory is easy to explain. I took a video of the moon with feathered edges, so that debunks you.

Your video shows no feathering whatsoever.  Nor does it show a specular highlight.  Both are REQUIRED on a rock in outer space that is lit up by a single light source.  But neither can be seen on any photo or video of the moo…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  God’s own description say The Day he created the heavens and earth. And this including light took place BEFORE the conclusion of Day 1. 

You have argued that Gen 1:1 means that the creation of heaven and earth were already completed (and what follows is how God “terraformed” the earth), right?  And you seem to think that the crea…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  The sun is both part of the heavens and is also light. Maybe you are unaware of that.

You like to imagine that the creation of “heaven” INCLUDES all the things IN heaven, like the sun, moon, and stars.  Why do you do that?  You don’t conflate “the day God created the earth” with “the day God created the earth, the sea, vegetation, fi…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Nope. God’s own description say The Day he created the heavens and earth. And this including light took place BEFORE the conclusion of Day 1.

You are already aware that the word “day” can be used idiomatically to refer to an unspecified general period of time, so we don’t have to go over that again.  Unfortunately for you, the plu…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  If people can be pillars, then there is no reason to believe that the earth sits on stilts just as people are not stilts. Spiritually minded people will understand what it means. Carnal men will only see a physical pillar. Likewise, when Jesus returns  he will have a samurai coming out of his mouth rather than understanding what it m…

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Proclaimer:  The first problem is that you need to come up with a complicated answer whereas the heliocentric model is really simple and this one single model makes all phenomena simple like the orbits of wandering stars for example.

Are you under the impression that the current heliocentric model just popped into existence and explained…[Read more]

Adam:  2.  In Hannah’s prayer of thanksgiving, she says, “The pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them He has set the world” (1 Samuel 2:8, ESV). The pillars of the earth also appear in the book of Job. In answering his friend Bildad, Job talks about how God’s mighty power disqualifies any man from contending with Him: “They could not ans…

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Adam:  The Bible says in Gen 1: 16, that…‘God created two lights the greater light, the Sun to rule the day, and the lesser light the Moon, to rule the night. The actual translation, if you go to the Hebrew text, it is ‘lamps’…‘Lamps having lights of its own.’ And that you will come to know better, if you read both the Verses – Gen 1:16-17. Ver…

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Adam:  The problem is with the Biblical authors who were Flat Earthers because they were not having so many insights what we have today through scientific discoveries.

This is the claim Pretender used to make early on in this thread.  But then I made him realize that the Biblical authors are said to have been inspired by Holy Spirit to write the t…[Read more]