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    Are you unable to answer those easy questions, Nick?Should you preach to others a doctrine that you cannot even answer questions about?

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    Nick, you are free to tell me which part(s) of Rev 4 support your theory that Isaiah foretold about “the Holy Spirit”.But you must ask yourself:1. Was Jesus the Holy Spirit itself? NO.2. Had Jesus allotted the Holy Spirit to anyone at the time the events of John 14 took place? NO.3. Had any of the people who rejected Jesus in John 14 even had…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 15 2014,12:12)hi MB,Useless to test the spirits with your natural mind.What do YOU test the spirits with, Nick?

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 13 2014,22:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2014,10:21)Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 12 2014,23:00)God is all powerful and so is his Word.This means that the Word is equal in power to God.Surely you are confused, since the Word of God could do nothing on his own.  It was God who performed the signs and wonders through him.  Even now, i…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 13 2014,21:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 13 2014,10:33)I agree with everything in that last post, Wakeup.  But that means that I was right, and Jesus, as the Word of God on earth, had HIS OWN will, right?Mike B.Yes; the man Jesus was not a robot.He as a man, has his own will.But **He chose** to do His Fathers will…[Read more]

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    Kerwin,Think it out: 1. Was Adam originally made by God “comprised of dirt”? 2. Was Adam originally made by God as “incomplete without the heavenly”? 3. Was Adam originally made as a “temporal, passing away, transient” being?Which one fits the CONTEXT of what Paul was teaching?

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 15 2014,13:53)Hi MB, If God does not make things clear by our standards of logic should we stress?The Word was God is what scripture says not what I sayOkay.  You think the Word was the actual being of God Almighty Himself.  Is “God” a person?  If so, then the Word is a person.  This doesn't take rocket science.If, on the…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 13 2014,23:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2014,23:41)1.  Can you see that the phrase “the word” means different things in the two examples?  2.  Would you ever use #2 to prove that #1 doesn't refer to a living, breathing BEING?  3.  Would you ever use #2 to prove that the Word and the King from #1 are the same, identical pers…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 13 2014,20:47)Mike's logic:If God's Word is speaking on earth;how can Gods Word be also in heaven.This does not make any sense to him.Wakeup,You are confused about what I believe.  That doesn't surprise me, since you are also confused about what YOU believe.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 13 2014,18:44)Hi MB,You ask”So WHO exactly became flesh and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son?”You imply the WHO is a person, a sentient being. Scripture does not say so, so it is not a good idea to presume so.Don't you also imply “WHO”, Nick? Don't YOU say that “the Word” was actually God…[Read more]

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    That is not an answer, Nick. I have shown you that JESUS is the one Isaiah foretold about, and saw the glory of.Either agree with what I have shown you, or REFUTE it scripturally.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 15 2014,13:28)Hi MB, So theology is enough for you?That is nothing but mindless tripe, Nick.You have questions waiting for your answers. Better get to it.

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    Quote (carmel @ Mar. 15 2014,12:40)Quote No Charles……………If I was going to tell you that God is granting me “eternal life”, do you suppose I could say it this way:  Hey Charles!  God said He was going to grant me Jesus! ?  ???Mike,UNAWARE OF IT, YOU'VE GOT IT RIGHT THIS TIME!Okay, let's try this one:Satan was originally created with “J…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 15 2014,12:12)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 13 2014,18:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2014,10:44)….. and the Word was with God……1.  Who is the underlined “God” in part b, Nick?  Is it “Father God”?  YES or NO?…….. and the Word was God.2.  Who is the underlined “God” in part c?  Is it “Father God”?  YES or NO?Hi MB, G…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2014,21:05)Hi, The Word WAS God.The Word is not GodSo then “God” became something OTHER THAN “God”, Nick?

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 14 2014,19:30)Quote In Christian tradition the Trinity is a mystery of faith revealed in scripture, historically being deemed unknowable by unaided human reason and not capable of logical demonstration once revealed, being above reason without being incompatible with the principles of rational thought.Nick and Wakeup,Please…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 14 2014,19:22)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 14 2014,20:29)kerwin,no verse that tells us that MAN HAS NATURE OF GOD.Jammin,Since you have not answered my question about whether God has a divine nature I am assuming you are afraid it will compromise your position.  My question is why do you choose to take a position that you feel can be…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 14 2014,08:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2014,08:04)1.  There exists only one Most High God, jammin.  Do you agree with that?  YES or NO?2.  In the beginning, the Word was with that one Most High God.  Do you agree with that?  YES or NO?1. if you are talking about the God the father then YES. 2.YES………1.  Which other…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 13 2014,19:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2014,07:54)So you agree that there was ONLY God at first?There was no separate “word” who was with God at first, right?Mike B.1.**Before creation** started there was only God.Good.  We agree on that part.Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 13 2014,19:10)3.This person's word is not another…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 13 2014,18:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2014,10:44)….. and the Word was with God……1.  Who is the underlined “God” in part b, Nick?  Is it “Father God”?  YES or NO?…….. and the Word was God.2.  Who is the underlined “God” in part c?  Is it “Father God”?  YES or NO?Hi MB, God makes it very plain by saying the W…[Read more]

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