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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 18 2014,07:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2014,11:53)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 17 2014,07:52)mike,do not fool people. what verse does it say that solomon is omniscient? you mean since the beginning of his existence here on earth, HE KNOWS EVERYTHING? YES OR NO? give me one boy. stop fooling people.I couldn't find the one about…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 18 2014,07:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2014,11:35)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 17 2014,07:47)elijah, david and goliath or whatever, all of them have LIMITATIONJesus also had limitations, jammin.  He still does today – even in his exalted state.  That's why he sits at the right hand of his and our God Jehovah, and waits for J…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 18 2014,05:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2014,12:02)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 17 2014,09:36)Mike i do not worship the commandments as my God…………Why not, Gene?  You say the words/commandments/curses/instructions of God ARE God, right?Aren't we supposed to worship “God”?So if His words ARE Him, then we should…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2014,19:47)Hi MB, So when God is in you by the Spirit there is still one God.Yes Nick. There is always only one Most High God.I'm failing to see your point, or how it allows the Father to be WITH the Father. So please go on…………

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2014,17:40)Hi MB, Do you not believe the promises of God?acts 2.38-39Do YOU believe the promises, Nick? If so, how are you able to UNDERSTAND that which you believe?Are you allowed to believe things all by yourself, Nick? Doesn't that require knowledge of the things you choose to believe? Doesn't it require…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 18 2014,13:26)Mike,If you think other verses support your teaching better and John 1 is neutral to it then use those teachings.Oh, there are many other scriptures that support it, Kerwin. In fact, a group of us listed over 50 of those verses in the “Pre-existent Scriptural Database” thread.But we've barely even scratched the…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 18 2014,11:12)Mike,Quote 1.  First of all, the phrase “the Word BECAME flesh” most LOGICALLY refers to something or someone called “the Word” actually and literally BECOMING FLESH.  It is FAR LESS LIKELY that the phrase “the Word BECAME flesh” speaks of an already flesh man taking on “characteristics” of something or someone c…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2014,16:59)Hi MB, Are you appointed as a judge?Did the Spirit write those words for you, Nick?  Did the Spirit lead you, or encourage you in any way to write those words to me?Or do you suppose that you have your own brain, fully capable of understanding what each of those words mean, and capable of placing them in…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 3 months ago

    And how, then, do we test to see if it is THE Spirit who is testing the other spirits?  What do we test that against?Nick, it's like you want to take no responsibility at all for anything you think, speak, or do.But wherever our gifts of discernment, common sense, knowledge, and logic are kept, it is clear that they are OURS to use as we see…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2014,21:53)Hi MB, Where are your gifts?My gift of common sense and logic is in my brain.Where is your gift of discernment kept?

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2014,18:50)Hi MB,Can the Holy Spirit of God be in you and God be in heaven?God can be in me VIA His Holy Spirit.Is God ever separated from His Spirit, Nick?Can “the Father” be WITH “the Father”? How many “Fathers” would that make?

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    Quote (carmel @ Mar. 17 2014,14:20)WHEN THE SON OF GOD WAS BORN WE ALL BELIEVE THAT HE WAS PERFECT!BUT TO PROVE THAT HE WAS PERFECT HE OPTED TO BE IMPERFECT!NOW SINCE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO SOMEONE LIKE YOU,DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT IS NOT TRUE?It makes perfect sense to me that Jesus had to take on flesh to be sacrificed, and also so he could…[Read more]

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    Quote (carmel @ Mar. 17 2014,13:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 17 2014,04:26)Nick, jammin, Gene, and all:We all seem to agree that the “God” in John 1:1b (the Word was with “God”) is “the Father”.But is the “God” in 1:1c (the Word was “God”) also “the Father”?Mike,YES IN A DIFFERENT FUNCTION!LIKE FOR INSTANCE!THE CATERPILLAR IS WHEN HE BECOMES A…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 17 2014,09:36)Mike i do not worship the commandments as my God…………Why not, Gene? You say the words/commandments/curses/instructions of God ARE God, right?Aren't we supposed to worship “God”?So if His words ARE Him, then we should worship His words, right?

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 17 2014,08:00)you and david have the same nature mike. david is not ALMIGHTY. he is not God. you are also not God.John 15:15…….everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.That makes it clear that Jesus LEARNED the things he knows from his Father and God, Jehovah. He is not omniscient.This also says…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 17 2014,07:52)mike,do not fool people. what verse does it say that solomon is omniscient? you mean since the beginning of his existence here on earth, HE KNOWS EVERYTHING? YES OR NO? give me one boy. stop fooling people.I couldn't find the one about Solomon, but in 2 Samuel 14:20, David is said to have the wisdom of an angel…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2014,22:38)Hi MB, Yes the Father Who is spirit.No that is your simplistic understanding.The Spirit cannot fit in your logicNick,I'm not sure what you're saying “YES” to, and what you're saying “NO” to.

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 17 2014,07:47)elijah, david and goliath or whatever, all of them have LIMITATIONJesus also had limitations, jammin. He still does today – even in his exalted state. That's why he sits at the right hand of his and our God Jehovah, and waits for Jehovah to place his enemies at his feet, so he can then destroy those…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2014,21:42)Hi MB, One God in jn1.But you seem to have no understanding of how God manifests as His Spirit.Now, you say there is only ONE God in John 1:1.Is that ONE God “the Father”?  It must be, right?  Because what other “God” would it be?So in your understanding, 1:1b tells us that the Word was WITH the Father, a…[Read more]

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    Pierre,Are you saying that when God tells us what's going to happen in the future, sometimes He's just making an “educated GUESS”?

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