So to have the “form of God” is to become a servant of God?Becoming a servant shows you had the “form of God”? When did God ever become a servant? And if He didn't, how is becoming a servant likened to having the form of God?Plus, you didn't explain how the HUMAN BEING Jesus, who emptied himself of the form of God, was then MADE IN THE LIKENESS…[Read more]

I do. Christ is very happy when I use my God-given reasoning, logic, and common sense.In fact, I had planned on leaving you with only the Daniel verse in that last post. Then, when posting that verse, I was inexplicably led to the other two verses. I had to go back and change “this verse” to “these verses”. Christ is indeed with me, Nick.

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 19 2014,21:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2014,12:16)This was your statement, Wakeup:Quote Not a different being.  The same being in a different body.And “the SAME BEING” means that you think the Word IS God.If I am “the SAME BEING” as the Boston Strangler, then I AM the Boston Strangler.If you are “the SAME BEING” as the…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 19 2014,21:51)Mike B.There you go.Ramiel was Harry in the flesh.The word of God was Jesus in the flesh.And just like both Ramiel and Harry are creations of God, both the Word and Jesus were creations of God.Ramiel/Harry was created by Jehovah.Jesus/The Word was created by Jehovah as the first of His works. He is the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2014,21:10)So MB, The glory quoted by Jn 12 as being seen was that of the Lord of Hosts?No.  The future glory of Jesus.Nick, did Isaiah ever speak about Jesus?  (Is 53)Was Isaiah given a vision of the glory Jesus would have?  (Is 9:6, 53:1, 10, 11, 12)The answer to both is “YES”.  Therefore, like John said, Isaiah “sp…[Read more]

Good Kerwin,You're half way there.  You know this because Paul CONTRASTED the flesh bodies of the earthly against those celestial bodies, right?40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another.See?  Big CONTRAST between the two, r…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 20 2014,11:39)Mike,1. What I said is a reason and should be considered but I am not sure if it actually makes any difference one way or another. 2. The use of a comparative in the sentence infers and possibly implies there are two things to be compared.1. I didn't see any “reason” for “the only begotten Son of God”…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2014,21:51)Hi MB, The gentle Spirit does not think for you.The wind blows and you catch a whisper in your thoughtsWhose thoughts? So then you admit that you do have a thought or two of your own, Nick? I said all I need to say about this in the “Logic” thread.

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 20 2014,11:33)1. All I am saying is Jesus had the qualities of the word after the word was made flesh.  2. Remember that was is a past tense form of “be” and among other things it is “used to describe the qualities of a person or thing'.1. No, no, no, Kerwin! Not just “the Word was made flesh”! It is, The Word was made…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2014,14:07)Hi 94, Men sleep in the earth awaiting judgement when the spirit returns to God and the body decays.The resurrection will be from the earthI agree with you on this one, Nick.The body decays and disappears.The spirit that animated us, which was on loan to us from God, goes back to Him who gave it.And the…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 20 2014,11:21)We know that Jesus was a spirit being made into a flesh being.This spirit being was with God and had glory with God.This means that HE was there,before the earth was.The problem we have, is to understand who/what; this spirit being is.Scriptures tell us; HE is the Word of God.You started off so well, but then…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 20 2014,08:02)Hi Mike & Wakeup:I have already been over the things that you present to me in your last posts to me, and there is not need for me to keep going over the same things with you time and time again.  I have given you my understanding of the scriptures.We are all responsible to God for what we teach, and so, I will…[Read more]

Uh-oh Nick,Even our newest regular member is on to you already. That didn't take long.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2014,21:13)Hi MB, God does the oddest things.When I was at a catholic school age 14 one of the teachers for religious instruction read to us the book of Acts I was hookedThat is a good story Nick, and I'm truly glad you were led to God at such an early age.  For me, it came much later in life – but like you, I was…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 20 2014,15:53)I MADE CLEAR THROUGHOUT MY POSTS THAT THE WORD IS THE TRIUNE GOD…………Then who was “the God” the Word was with in the beginning?Quote (carmel @ Mar. 20 2014,15:53)BUT ALL THREE MAJOR PRIMORDIAL SPIRITS WERE ALL WITHIN THE SONWhat?  Where do you get your information, Charles?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 20 2014,08:22)First of all Paul was relating to Jesus' earthly existences when he said “he was in the form or nature of God. Not some prior earthly existence…………Gene, You are in error. Paul said Jesus was existing in the form of God BEFORE emptying himself and being made in the likeness of a human…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 20 2014,07:57)thomas also said to jesus while he was here on earth that he is God and his Lord.Yep. Jesus is called by the title “god” at least 5 times in scripture – which is fine since he IS a god.He is apparently not the MOST HIGH God Jehovah, though, because you just got done telling me that Jesus had limitations as a…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 20 2014,07:50)is david omnisicient? yes or no?Of course not, jammin.Do you understand the point I was making? Apparently not, so here goes again:I am telling you that “knowledge” is not a part of someone's “nature”.There have been people with human nature who knew A LOT, and people with human nature who knew VERY…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 19 2014,23:18)God=YHWH.The HS=the Holy Spirit *OF* God.The Holy Spirit is *OF* God;The Word is *OF*God.Both are *OF* God.Both are not God.We are OF Christ; we are NOT Christ.We have the Spirit OF Christ,we are not Christ.We have the HS in us; we are not the HS.Agreed, Wakeup.

He saw the glory of Jehovah, the throne, the seraphim, etc.Why are you still talking about Is 6? John quoted 6 for the people who were hearing Jesus, but not understanding.And John was talking about 53 when he said Isaiah had spoken about Jesus, and saw his glory.