Mike:  2.  And is Jesus the Son OF the God that you worship and serve as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and all that is in them?

 

LU:  I worship both the Father and the Son as the creator of heaven and earth, sea, and all that is in them.

That’s not what I asked you.  Please directly and honestly answer the question I actually asked.  Thanks.

Mike: No scripture ever mentions “biological son” in reference to Jesus and God.

LU:  That is an example of one of your ridiculous arguments that you think should actually be made.

Great.  Let’s see if the argument actually IS ridiculous, or if maybe you just don’t understand it.

LU:  A son, by default is a biological offspring of the parent.…

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LU:  I see two people here that have given you a lot of their time trying to help you and we are both telling you similar things.

Correction, you are both attacking me personally – instead of my scripturally supported arguments.  Case in point…

LU:  …you are the one being exposed as the puppet of the master deceiver. It isn’t even hard for…

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Mike:  1. KATHI, WHO EXACTLY IS THE “GOD” THAT YOU WORSHIP AND SERVE AS THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN, EARTH, SEA, AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM?

 

LU:  YAHWEH, THE GOD OF GODS AND THE LORD OF LORDS.

2.  And is Jesus the Son OF the God that you worship and serve as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and all that is in them?

LU:  Mike, who exactly do you thi…

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LU: …you don’t believe that the only begotten God, Jesus, shares the name of YHVH. I do. That very point is blinding you to the gospel of God.

Does anyone in the NT call Jesus “Yahweh”?  Since not, are Jesus’ apostles who wrote the NT also blinded to the gospel?  (They do, however, call him the servant OF the God who created all things, rig…[Read more]

Hi Kathi.  I just read every word of your novel, and wanted to point something out.  Here are a couple snippets of things Proclaimer has said recently…

Proclaimer:  Take gadam for example. He has come to the conclusion that the Bible is myth and Mike just adds more myth and gadam eats it up. They bounce off each other but the sad part is Mike is…

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I saved the best for last…

LU: For example…in this passage Jesus kept talking about “my Father” this and “My Father” that, referring to God, and the surrounding Jews basically thought that by calling YHVH as your very own biological father, you are making yourself out to be a begotten god.

33The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not st…

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LU: Can YOU call Jesus the Only Begotten Son of God?

Yes, but I might now be speaking in past tense if I do so.  (Others may have been begotten by God since Jesus was begotten by God when he was raised from the dead.)  Consider…

John 1:12-13… But to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become chi…[Read more]

LU: Mike,

Who is El Elyon or El Shaddai ?

Shaddai, from https://www.ancient-hebrew.org/studies-words/meaning-of-el-shaddai.htm …

The Hebrew word שדי (shaddai) also has the meaning of a “teat.” Just as the goat provides nourishment to its kids through the milk, God nourishes his children through his milk and provides all the necessiti…

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Mike:  Does the fact that Yahweh (in Deut 10:17) and Jesus (in Rev 17:14) are both called the Lord of lords NECESSARILY mean that they are part of some “Unity Entity” comprised of two persons?  Yes or No?

LU:  No

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Mike:  So your argument that Jesus came to earth to say, “Hey, btw, your God’s name is Yahweh” is ridiculous.

LU:  That is not my argument.

If your argument is that “I have made your name known” means that Jesus taught God’s literal personal name to people who already knew it, then that is indeed your argument.  And it is indeed a ridiculo…[Read more]

I posted this a couple of weeks ago, but didn’t get any answers…

Please answer my question, guys.

Danny?  Does it make sense to you that the red line by the zero is what Jesus would have called “the BEGINNING of creation”?

Adam?  Please answer.

Gene?  Please answer.

Carmel?  Please answer.

Pretender?  Please answer.

Thanks.

Hey Proclaimer… I’m still waiting for YOUR valid explanation of why the Loon Project would be necessary when there were already thousands of satellites in space doing the very thing Loon set out to do.

And I don’t think you ever did address the fact that NASA is the largest consumer of helium in the world.  Why do you think that would be?  C…[Read more]

Danny, this is from the official Freemasons site!

Masonic Astronauts

LU:  No, I believe that their god is their belly and their belly is their god.

Then you certainly also know that you can’t define the word “god” AS “belly in that verse.  If the MEANING of “god”  “belly”, then the statement reads, “their BELLY is their BELLY”.

Please try again.  Give me the definition of the word “god” in that verse.

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LU:  The Son of God can very well be a member of a unity that consists of a Father and a Son. That Son can also be a servant to that unity.

Maybe in Bizarro World, but not in the real world.  If the definition of “God” is “Unity of Father and Son”, then a son OF, OF, OF that Unity cannot possibly also be a member or servant of it.

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Mike: The English word “angel” refers to a messenger who is also a supernatural spirit son of God.  Jesus is exactly that.  It’s just that in the Bible, they are called “messengers” and “gods” – not ever “angels”.

 

LU: Not so…

Strong’s Concordance
aggelos: an angel, messenger
Original Word: ἄγγελος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Tr…

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Mike:  Exodus 23:20-22… Behold, I am sending an angel before you… Pay attention to him….since My Name is in him… If you will listen carefully to his voice and do everything I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies… 

Kathi, do you think the word “name” in this passage refers to God’s literal name?

 

LU:  Yes

Mike:  Does this passage (espec…

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Proclaimer: 1.  In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
(Already created.)
Mike:  In your understanding, does Gen 1:1 mean that the entire heaven – complete with our earth, our moon, our sun, and billions of other stars – are already in existence?  Yes or No, please?
Proclaimer:  Yes, it seems that indeed the text says that. Th…

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Proclaimer, in your understanding, does Gen 1:1 mean that the entire heaven – complete with our earth, our moon, our sun, and billions of other stars – are already in existence?  Yes or No, please?