Quote (kerwin @ April 05 2014,15:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2014,08:35)The Israelites were also not allowed to sell their birthright land they inherited.  Was that land their “property”?Mike,I do not believe it was.  Basically they were given the use of it by God and could sell that use though I believe the limited the length of that.It's a h…[Read more]

David,I am impressed with the thought, reasoning, and wit with which (say those last three words fast three times ) you addressed Colter and Kerwin.I am more impressed with the scriptures you posted that displayed the complete and utter “slavehood” of Hagar, Bilhah, and Zilpah.  Once FORCED to bear children at the command of the people who OWNED…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ April 05 2014,14:33)Quote (david @ April 05 2014,13:53)As a moderator I'm going to have to insists that we keep this discussion focused on slavery.Ok, the people who wrote parts of the Bible owned slaves in an age when that was more acceptable…………Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,04:53)Quote (david @ April 05 2014,14:33)Again,…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 03 2014,23:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2014,11:12)Some poor people sold themselves to others.  The agreement is that they would receive room and board, and in turn they would do laborious work for their owner.According to the Bible, a rich relative could buy them out of the contract, and free them.I think we should…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 03 2014,23:08)If I hold a gun to your head (or a large stick) and ask you to tie my shoe, we have not entered a contract and I am not your employer.

The things Wakeup and I are trying to show you comes directly from the “theological book” of the Bible, Nick.Specifically, in John 3.

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,04:33)EdJ.You are born again; then you are spirit. Are you really?Jesus said this: If you are born *OF* the spirit ;you are spirit.But I see you still having KFC and Burgers?Good one, Wakeup. Ed, you can be metaphorically “born again” when you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and King.Wakeup is talking about…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,03:50)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2014,20:45)Hi WU, There is no such thing as mother's water. The waters of childbirth are of the conception.Nick.Then you dont understand Jesus speech.He was very clear and straight.Born of water=flesh;  born of spirit=spirit.Why can you not understand?wakeup.Wakeup,The teaching is…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,03:32)I'm familiar with your beliefs, I could write a book on them.What I want from you in our discussions, IS ANSWERS to my questions.Amen!

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2014,22:04)Hi Wakeup, Are you suggesting that you will not have God's divine nature until you are resurrected?Ed,The teaching Jesus gave to Nicodemus is about being born of something other than flesh in order to see or enter the kingdom of heaven.This must be a LITERAL rebirth of spirit, and not flesh.Don't confuse this with…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2014,17:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2014,12:46)Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 30 2014,16:08)Adam was the first created flesh child.Jesus was the first created spirit child.Agreed.And which did God create first, spirit things, or flesh things?  It was spirit things, right?No Mike, this verse is in contradiction with your current…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2014,12:17)Hi MB, Jesus CHRIST said these things Jesus the man, anointed by the eternal Spirit.Yes Nick,Jesus the anointed one of God said that HE HIMSELF had glory alongside his God before the world began, and that HE HIMSELF came down from heaven to do the will of the one who sent him down from heaven.Now, was it a…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 05 2014,11:25)……this statement is said about the word after it has become Jesus and has come to dwell among us.  You must have made a typo, Kerwin.  Because as it is, your statement seems to say that the Word actually BECAME the human being known as Jesus.And since you fight so hard against that SCRIPTURAL teaching, I c…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2014,13:02)Mike,Quote There is no adding, Kerwin.  The entire context of John 1 speaks about Jesus, and how he came to be on earth, dwelling among us with the glory of God's only begotten Son.So you admit the John 1 does not explicitly say anything about Jesus existing and having his name be the Word of God.  Your claim i…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 04 2014,07:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2014,11:52)It seems like you're trying to tell me that someone was both “limited” AND “unlimited” at the same time.But surely that must be a misunderstanding on my part, because no sensible person would ever make such a claim, right?1. do you believe christ became human? yes or…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 04 2014,00:49)SINCE IT IS A MATERIAL CREATION WHICH OBVIOUS WAS OF THE ENEMIES OF GOD!THEREFORE ONLY THROUGH A MEDIATOR, GOD HIMSELF IN THE FUNCTION OF THE WORD COULD DO IT.Again Charles,You are saying that “GOD” couldn't be DIRECTLY involved, so that same “GOD” changed His function and became His own mediator so that He…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 03 2014,22:23)Mike,Quote The Greek says, “the name of him is called the Word of God”.It does not say he “is called by the name OF the Word of God” – like you've mistakenly written.You are correct and perhaps there is a difference in the meaning I am not seeing right now.Take off any man-made blinders you may be wearing, and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2014,20:52)Hi MB, You USE scripture to try and bolster your weak dogmas Really you ought to let it teach youI use scripture to LEARN the TRUTH, Nick. But when I quote those very scriptures to show YOU that truth, you call me names, deride me, and run away from all those scriptures I've posted, and all those questions…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 03 2014,22:07)Mike B.Are you calling Jesus a liar?He said: no man has heard God's voice.I'm not calling Jesus a liar, but Jesus never said that which you claim he did, Wakeup.Read it in context:John 5 KJV37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor…[Read more]

What? Because you can't find a scripture that tells us Jehovah called Jesus a god in a derogatory, false god sense, I'm playing “silly games”? Because you can't answer ANY of the 20 questions I've asked you, I'm playing “silly games”? Nick, if you can't find the scriptures to support your belief, or answer even the simplest of questions from…[Read more]