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    Quote (carmel @ April 17 2014,14:45)MIKE,READ MORE OF MY IMAGINATIONS:DO YOU BELIEVE THAT GOD WOULD EVENTUALLY COMES IN THE WORD ON EARTH AS THE DAUGHTER OF GOD!I believe John 3:16 and 1 John 4:9, Charles.  I believe God so loved the world that He SENT His only begotten Son Jesus Christ into the world, and GAVE him as an atoning sacrifice for…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ April 15 2014,20:45)Jesus will not be our everlasting father.God and His Word will be our everlasting Father.Huh?Isn't Jesus the Word? Are you saying that the person “Jesus” will cease to exist, and the Word will “merge back together” with the Father?Or are you saying Jesus himself will become our heavenly Father?I don't…[Read more]

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    Wakeup,1.  Was our heavenly Father Jehovah the son who was born to us?  YES or NO?2.  Will the son who was born to us someday BECOME our heavenly Father Jehovah?  YES or NO?

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    You call it “milk”………. I call it “sanity”.  :)Face it Charles, the only prophesy about God being a man who doesn't lie is in your own imagination – which in turn is driven by your own unscriptural desire for Jesus to BE the very God he is the Son and Servant OF.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (4Thomas @ April 16 2014,00:11)We can point to lots of examples of Jesus being the servant Acts 4:27Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met together with the Gentiles and the people of Israel in this city to conspire against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed.The Word become flesh, God the Son became a man, as a man he was anointed…Hi…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (4Thomas @ April 15 2014,19:15)Hi Mike,Are you honestly saying that THE Son is NOT the Word of God.Hebrews 11:3English Standard VersionBy faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.The Father created FROM his ***Word*** because it was BY the Word of…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ April 15 2014,21:52)Mike,I think that you will find most of those experts agree with me without actually saying the same words.  Pulpit seems to be opposed believing it is talking about corrupt behavior,  The other seem  to also to one degree or another.  They did not get that from that one sentence but most like are con…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ April 16 2014,07:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 16 2014,09:29)Are you aware that the Father Jehovah IS indeed the God OF Jesus?there is no doubt that the father is his God…………Then there is no need to go on about it. Case solved. :)Jesus was existing in the form of his own Father and God, Jehovah – but didn't consider equality…[Read more]

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    Quote (carmel @ April 16 2014,00:59)NOW PROVE THAT GOD ALMIGHTY IS OUR FATHER WITHOUT MENTIONING HIS SON!Malachi 2:10Do we not all have one Father? Did not one God create us?Matthew 23:9And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.Charles, the rest of your post didn't really even address my last post to…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (4Thomas @ April 15 2014,18:54)Instead I believe God created man in his image………No, no, no, Daniel.You're not allowed to say “HIS image” anymore – since you think God is a “THEY”. And especially when you've given me the tired old Trinitarian speech about man being “body, soul, and spirit”, and we are also therefore “three in one, like…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ April 14 2014,21:20)Mike B.I understand isaiah 9 allright; it is you that make a created being your everlasting Father.Lets go from start.John 1:1   *In the beginning* was the Word……………No, no, no, Wakeup.I will be happy to go through John 1 with you, verse by verse.  But not UNTIL I'm sure you understand the things I've s…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (4Thomas @ April 15 2014,00:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 15 2014,12:57)Quote (4Thomas @ April 14 2014,19:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2014,04:46)1.  When you speak of our ONE and ONLY Almighty God, do you refer to that God as a “Him”, or as a “Them”?  And if God is not a “Them”, then how can you be both a brother and a son to HIM?2.  …[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 12 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ April 15 2014,13:30)I think there is child slavery, where parents sell their children, in some countries today.There is indeed.

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    Quote (carmel @ April 15 2014,14:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 15 2014,11:59)Are you really trying to tell me that Balaam thought Jehovah was a man, but just not a man who lies? Mike,NO , FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT BALAAM WAS PROPHESYING!Balaam wasn't prophesying, Charles. He was talking in the “here and now”.Balak was asking for a curse on…[Read more]

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    But you say the Word IS God, Charles. So if the Word can dwell in us, and the Word IS God, then what's the difference?Unless you agree that the Word is someone OTHER THAN and LESSER TO God Himself. THEN your claim would make a little bit of sense. (It would still be unscriptural, since Jesus speaks of both him AND God dwelling in us.)

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    Quote (kerwin @ April 15 2014,13:59)Charles,I agree that the natural was created before the spiritual because that was the order they were created in on earth as Genesis 1 relates.  Kerwin,The words “in the beginning” in Genesis 1:1 don't necessarily mean the heavens (or “sky”) and the earth were the very first things God created.The angels could…[Read more]

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    Quote (carmel @ April 15 2014,12:00)AND WHAT APPLIES TO GOD IS THE OPPOSITE TO WHAT APPLIES TO US!GOD HIMSELF CONFIRMED THIS!Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts: nor your ways my ways, saith the Lord.Charles,Saying His ways and thoughts are not our ways and thoughts does NOT mean that the word “son” for us means we created a life…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ April 15 2014,11:59)Jammin,What it tells us is that Jesus has a God and he calls that God his Father and the Father of believers. Put that with Philippians 2:6 and is tells us Jesus exists in the form of his Father and our Father,  the same one he calls his God.Kerwin,I agree that the fact that Jesus and we have the same God…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ April 15 2014,11:55)………you should understand that they have the same nature, God. that is the truth that you CANT accept because you accept what you only want to hearPerhaps we can't accept it because we have never read a scripture where the word “God” refers to a SPECIES or a NATURE, jammin.Every time the word “God” is used,…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ April 15 2014,11:32)Quote (kerwin @ April 13 2014,18:28)I do know that Hebrews 6:3 Genesis 6:3 is using flesh as if it was in rebellion against the governance of the Spirit.Okay Kerwin,I agree that some scholars understand the word “flesh” in Gen 6:3 as referring to “mortality”.  But not all:Pulpit Commentary……is flesh, not…[Read more]

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