Quote (carmel @ April 30 2014,00:45)Mike,IS JESUS CHRIST. THE MESSIAH, THE REDEEMER OF ALL, THEREFORE:BOTH SONS AND DAUGHTERS!?ANSWER!YES OR NO!NO.Jesus is the Christ/Messiah of his and our God, Jehovah.He is, however, the redeemer of all human beings, who are brothers and sisters to him – not sons and daughters.On the other hand………..Malachi…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 29 2014,10:49)Mike,Revelation specifically, it is a book of prophecy and full symbols. It does not tell us that God physically sits on heaven and rests his feet on earth.Then where exactly are these four creatures who sing to God day and night? Are they singing into an abyss?I believe the Revelation descriptions of God's…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 30 2014,09:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 30 2014,07:51)Quote (kerwin @ April 29 2014,11:01)It makes more sense in context of which it is used in Hebrews as then both messengers and ministers are angels and not just the messengers as angels and the ministers are left as non-angels extras that were mentioned anyways.Not…[Read more]

Jehovah also spoke “face to face” with the entire congregation from Horeb. That means He spoke “directly” – as opposed to “through an angel, vision, dream, etc”. (Numbers 12:5-8)But although Jehovah spoke “face to face” with them, Moses said,Deuteronomy 412 Then the Lord spoke to you out of the fire. You heard the sound of words but saw no form;…[Read more]

Actually Daniel,Let me make this real easy for the both of us:Is it clear from Genesis 1 that Jehovah God spoke literal words which caused the heavens, the stars, the earth, and the creatures on it to come into existence?The only honest answer is “YES”.Therefore, when you read a scripture that speaks of God creating all things “by His word” -…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ April 30 2014,08:27)Psalm 33:6By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, their starry host by the breath of his mouth.Hi Daniel,Did you know the word translated as “breath” is the Hebrew word “ruwach”?  Did you know that “ruwach” is also the word for “spirit” and “wind” – as well as “breath”?So, if I was trying to FORCE the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 29 2014,19:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 30 2014,06:56)From the time Jesus left Mary, to the time he came to the two disciples on the road, had his “essential inner substance” gone through a change?Or just his “outward appearance”?Mike,That definition seems to be a scholar speaking to another scholar just to show how…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 28 2014,22:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 28 2014,06:05)You are spending way too much time trying to make sure I spoke “incorrectly”, David.I was thinking the same of you. You are spending an enormous amount of time trying to prove yourself right.You've got it twisted, David.You spoke out of anger (or whatever) about us not…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 28 2014,22:13)You really only spoke incorrectly when you said:Not “hired servants”, but legitimate SLAVES. They were from that moment on OWNED by the person to whom they sold themselves.” Although called slaves they were to be treated like hired workers. And they weren't owned from that moment on, as if to say forever. They…[Read more]

Wakeup,Are you saying God was Melchizadek……. the “one and only king of peace”?   Listen carefully:  A priest OF God cannot possibly BE God.Melchizadek wasn't God.  And Melchizadek wasn't Jesus either, since Jesus was promised a priesthood in the order OF Melchizadek.Besides, Jesus isn't called the KING of peace, Wakeup.  He is called the PRI…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 29 2014,11:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 27 2014,01:16)The KJV confused the translation by not ADDING your words, “as fast as” and “as zealous as”?  Mike,This is the one that seems correct to me.Psalms 104:4English Standard Version4he makes his messengers winds,his ministers a flaming fire.It makes more sense in context of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 29 2014,10:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 29 2014,09:22)Quote (kerwin @ April 27 2014,17:27)Mike,John 1:18 state “No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known” according to the NIV.  The Koine means “none”.  There is nothing s…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 29 2014,10:49)Mike,Revelation specifically, it is a book of prophecy and full symbols.  It does not tell us that God physically sits on heaven and rests his feet on earth.Then where exactly are these four creatures who sing to God day and night? Are they singing into an abyss?I believe the Revelation descriptions of God's…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ April 29 2014,00:29)Hi t,You can't have an almighty God of Nothing especially an eternal Almighty *unchanging* Father.You can't have a God of nothing? So who was your triune God the God OF before anything was created?Daniel, I told you these things before, but here they are again:Although the BEING we know as “God” doesn't…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 29 2014,13:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 29 2014,13:44)Being “eternal” doesn't mean you are FROM ETERNITY.  MIke,WHEN YOU REFLECT, SINCE ALL CREATURES SPIRIT WISE,  HAVE A SPECK OF GOD,WITHIN AS THEIR ESSENCE ALL CREATURES ARE FROM ETERNITYYep! If you want to look at it that way, then all of us are “from eternity”, and t…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 29 2014,11:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 29 2014,08:50)Try the use in Mark 16:12, Kerwin.  Is there any DOUBT that it means “outward appearance” in that verse?Mike,I looked at the word morphe and its directives and the definition is “(outward expression) that embodies essential (inner) substance so that the form is in…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 29 2014,11:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 29 2014,14:07)2.  Acts 424 When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to God. “Sovereign Lord,” they said, “you made the heavens and the earth and the sea, and everything in them. 30 Stretch out your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name of …[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 29 2014,10:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 29 2014,13:58)Quote (jammin @ April 27 2014,16:16)Therefore it is very clear that the son and the father HAVE THE SAME FORM.Agreed.then the topic should be closed. check mate!Christ is God just like his father. they have the same form, God. good job mike. you are now…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 29 2014,10:53)Gill said God is nothing but nature and essence. do you believe that? you just cut and paste the short phrase of gill's commentary.That's right.  I cut and pasted the ONLY part that had to do with our discussion, jammin.We weren't discussing who thinks Jesus is “God by nature”, and who doesn't.  We were d…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 29 2014,10:50)you said MANY who will someday be eternal.where is that>? what verse is that? hahahaHere's just one of the many, jammin:John 3:16For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.This verse sums up the entire NT.  Who did our ONE…[Read more]