Quote (kerwin @ May 04 2014,18:59)Mike,The book of 1 Enoch has been bastardized and it has stuff thrown in there that has not been quoted by Scripture.  There was an unaltered version at one time but I do not know if we have access to it today.I already pointed out it gives another reason that Scripture does for God creating woman.  It can e…[Read more]

Hi journey,Could you please interpret Wakeup's recent answers in our private thread? Seriously, he needs your help over there.

Wakeup,Wouldn't it be better for you to just say, “Sorry guys… I was wrong” ?Everyone makes mistakes, but you make yourself look worse than the original mistake when you try to hem and haw your way out of it.Just own up to it, and be done with it.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 03 2014,10:38)Bump for Nick:Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 01 2014,19:25)Jesus is the firstborn of the new creation which is the relevant one.Which scripture says Jesus is the firstborn of the NEW creation, Nick?Nick?

Quote (Wakeup @ May 04 2014,17:55)Mike B.1.Do you believe that there is another king of peace besides Jesus?Jesus is never, in any scripture, called the “King of Peace”.  He is, however, called the PRINCE of Peace in Isaiah 9:6.Wakeup, the Hebrew word “Salem” (actually “shelem”) means “peace”.So ANYBODY who used to be king of the city named…[Read more]

Keith?

Quote (4Thomas @ May 02 2014,00:00)Scripture teaches it is BY the Son and Through the Son and FOR the Son. these are not my words.Didn't you read my last post?  God created you BY your parents.  But it was still GOD who actually created you, Daniel.Ephesians 3:9And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the b…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 03 2014,10:45)I agree that “were made spiritual, possessing a life which is eternal, and not subject to death for ever” but what I hear from the word “spiritual” and what you hear are two different things.  Yep.  What me AND Enoch hear from “spiritual” is that the spiritual are immortal, don't bear children, and dwell in the S…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 03 2014,10:57) Quote (mikeboll @ 64) The flesh counts for nothing, Kerwin.  It is neither “spiritual” nor “unspiritual”.I say there is a Spiritual flesh that man was created with in the beginning and that there is a natural flesh that man's body changed to after he sinned.Then what you say is, at best, an ADDITION to…[Read more]

Kerwin,God Himself said that no “adam” could see His face and live. Yet Moses and the entire congregation a Horeb were said to have “seen God”. God was also said to have “appeared” to some of the elders in the wilderness.But then Moses pointed out that they saw no “form” the day God spoke to them from Horeb.I understand God's claim that no man…[Read more]

Kerwin,It all ties together.  In conjunction with 1 Cor 15, Phil 3:21 explains how Paul is EAGERLY awaiting the transformation of his lowly body into a glorious new spiritual body like the one Jesus (and those of heaven) has now.It is BETTER to have a wonderfully powerful spiritual body like those of heaven have – than to have a lowly flesh body…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 04 2014,01:34)JESUS DOES NOT FOLLOW AFTER ANOTHER PRIEST.HE IS HIMSELF ALSO MELCHISEDEK.You are either confused, or adding your own imaginations into the scriptures…… or both.Jesus is a King of Israel “after the order of David”.  He sits on the throne OF David, right?  Yet David Himself called Jesus “my Lord”, right?  …[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 04 2014,09:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 04 2014,21:19)Quote (kerwin @ May 03 2014,10:12)Stong's does say external appearance or the form by which a person or thing strikes the vision neither which fits what you want.Strong's definition fits EXACTLY what I've been saying, Kerwin.Jesus was existing as a being of light who looked…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 04 2014,00:44)YOU BELIEVE IN GOD, BELIEVE ALSO IN ME!Bam!  A perfect scripture to tell you that Jesus is NOT God.  (The words “believe ALSO in me” are a dead giveaway, Charles.)

Quote (carmel @ May 03 2014,14:19)NOW ANSWER:SINCE WE ARE BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE SEED JESUS CHRST WHICH CAME OUT FROM THE WORD OF GOD!ACCORDING TO THIS SCRIPTURE ABOVE,BY WHOM ARE WE BORN AGAIN?I've already answered your misunderstanding of 1 Peter, Charles. I even quoted TRINITARIAN scholars, thinking that maybe you would believe them – since…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 03 2014,13:35)THAT THE SON IS THE LIFE OF MAN, NOT THE FATHERTHE FATHER DOESN'T COUNT!Jesus' OWN Father and God “doesn't count”? Be careful where you tread, Charles. Each of us will have an accounting of the things we do and say in this life.

Quote (carmel @ May 03 2014,12:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 04 2014,02:55)The SCRIPTURAL fact is that Jesus was the firstBORN of every CREATURE.  (Col 1:15)Mike,THAT IN NO WAY MEANS THE HE WAS CREATED!Yeah, actually it does, Charles.And I also listed about 5 other scriptures that support that first one.

Quote (carmel @ May 03 2014,12:17)Mike,JESUS WAS ALSO EX HOLY SPIRIT!See, this is what I'm talking about, Charles.Show me ONE single scripture that teaches us about an “Ex-Holy Spirit”.This is nothing but pure unscriptural nonsense – as is most of the things you post here.

Quote (carmel @ May 03 2014,11:35)THE FACT THAT JESUS PROVED THAT HE WAS IN FLESH AND BONES, AND STILL ENTERED THROUGH WALLS ISN'T IT ENOUGH A PROOF THAT ONLY A GOD COULD ACHIEVE THIS 2000 YEARS AGO?What about the angel OF God who destroyed 185,000 Assyrians in one night?Could only God do that? Do you TWIST that scripture in your mind, and…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 03 2014,10:36)SO JESUS,MR MIKE,IS NO LONGER OUR BROTHER…………Charles,You WANT something to be the case, and then set about making it so in your own mind.You have personally CONCOCTED fantasies in your mind about the “soul of Satan”, an “Ex-Holy Spirit”, an “assimilation from Son to Father”……. and a whole bunch of…[Read more]