Quote (kerwin @ May 05 2014,19:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 06 2014,06:21)Quote (kerwin @ May 05 2014,09:00)Mike,Quote Angels have, on occasion, appeared on earth in the “morphe” of men.  They do not look like that in heaven, Kerwin.  That is not their normal appearance, according to many scriptures that describe angels when they are not on e…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ May 04 2014,19:39)Hi Mike,The Lamb and all your examples of YOUR questions are Jesus as the Son of Man. I agree Jesus didn't create the heavens as the Son of man or the lamb of God.That's not a very good answer, Daniel.If the being we know as “Jesus” created all things, then it doesn't matter if he comes in a lower form, or ends…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ May 04 2014,19:39)Give me any single direct question, one at a time. Give me your BEST question and it will be clear as we go through YOUR questions one by one. WHAT was THE Son before he took flesh is the answer I want FROM you.Okay. Here's my first question:Mark 1318 Pray that this will not take place in winter, 19 because…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ May 04 2014,19:25)Hi Mike,I'm not twisting any scripture -you know this is the truth.I believe you are, Daniel.  You WANT so bad for Jesus to have been our Creator that you are reaching for things, understanding scriptural words in a way other than the most logical way they could be understood, and ignoring the scriptures I've…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 05 2014,09:44)The bastardized book of 1Enoch seems to be going further than even your conclusion that he created her to reproduce as it is not even based on Scripture.You don't know that the Enoch version I quoted from is the “bastardized version”, do you?Not really important, since it is clear to both of us that, from the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2014,20:05)Colossians 1:15 who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:This is the one I'm most familiar with, Nick.And as you can see, it says Jesus is the firstborn of EVERY creature – not just “NEW creations”.The passage then goes on to explain how all things, invisible and invisible, in…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 04 2014,18:53)Mike,1)  Do you believe the law was ordained by angels or do you believe God himself ordained it.  If so why did Paul say it was ordained by angels?2) According to you God has a fort that can be copied in an idol but chose not to show that form at Horeb as a symbol that he desired they not worship him through an i…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ May 05 2014,19:04)Revelation 22:3   And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:HOW MANY THRONES DO YOU SEE HERE?DOES IT SAY THRONE OR THRONES?That is just a way of talking/writing, journey. For example:Matthew 16:12Then they understood that he was…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2014,18:12)Hi WU6. THEN HE WILL GO BACK TO WHERE HE ORIGINALLY   CAME FROM; AND THAT WAS FROM INSIDE GOD.Very dubious doctrinesThis is what I'm trying to help avoid, journey. Because of Wakeup's flawed understanding of a few scriptures, we end up without our Lord and Savior and King, Jesus Christ. But that will NEVER…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 05 2014,08:13)I believe Mike understand quite well what you guys try to make him understand but what he does not understand is why ,you try so hard to make him understand things that stands against the scriptures………Amen. I enjoyed your posts, Pierre. Good, thoughtful, honest stuff.

Quote (jammin @ May 05 2014,10:53)a god is not a true God.Are you sure? Because Jesus calls his and our God “the ONLY true God”. He surely didn't say those words in John 17:3 to HIMSELF, right?So do you suppose that means Jesus is a “false god”?

Quote (kerwin @ May 05 2014,09:00)Mike,Quote Angels have, on occasion, appeared on earth in the “morphe” of men.  They do not look like that in heaven, Kerwin.  That is not their normal appearance, according to many scriptures that describe angels when they are not on earth.Are you speaking of the one one that look like a son of man.  I always th…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 04 2014,21:57)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Matthew 25:41Then he will say to those on his left, “Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.”Does the fact that the fire is ETERNAL mean that fire has existed FROM eternity?  YES or NO?did you read what matthew said?Just answer the…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 04 2014,21:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 04 2014,02:32)1.  Barclay says “morphe” cannot be different.2.  Scripture says Jesus appeared to them in a DIFFERENT “morphe”.barclay is a professor, a leading greek scholar, and author of many books and commentaries.Well, he is apparently a professor who has no problem teaching things t…[Read more]

jammin,It's time to focus on the second part of Phil 2:6.When Paul told us that Jesus “didn't consider equality with God something to be grasped” – who exactly is the God Paul was talking about?

Quote (jammin @ May 04 2014,21:26)mikeis Christ God? yes or no?Christ is A god, jammin.  But he is not the Most High God who created all things, and therefore he is not “God”.Let me see if I can help you out even more………….HUMAN is a NATURE.ROBERT is a PERSON.So you can say that I am HUMAN like my father, but you can't say that I am ROBERT…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 04 2014,21:20)you are not your father but you are HUMAN just like your father.Christ is God just like his father.But “human” IS a “nature” or “species”, jammin.”God” is NOT.”God” is the name/title of a particular PERSON – not the name of a “nature/species”.When you say, “Christ is God just like his Father”, it is like me…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 04 2014,21:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 04 2014,01:59)So here's the difference between me and Gill:1. I believe Jesus was existing in the OUTWARD APPEARANCE of HIS OWN FATHER AND GOD, JEHOVAH.2.  Gill believes Jesus was existing with the NATURE AND ESSENCE of HIS OWN FATHER AND GOD, JEHOVAH.And on this point, Gill and I…[Read more]

The last photo is funny, and makes a good point.But that comparison video says it all. The NFL hits were at least 50% more brutal, and were being done at much higher speeds.You know you've been hit hard when your helmet gets knocked clean off and flies about 50 feet the other direction.There are some other “NFL Hard Hits” videos on YouTube that…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 04 2014,19:11)Mike,You shifting on what you are saying Philippians 2 is speaking of.No.Quote (kerwin @ May 04 2014,19:11)You are trying to explain how Jesus was existing in the our form of an angel, some of who happen to look like human beings,  then emptied himself of that outward appearance to take on the outward appearance…[Read more]