Proclaimer:  And I do find it funny that you believe there was evening and morning even before their was a sun.

The Bible says there were three evenings and three mornings and three days before God MADE the sun.

Can’t you see how ridiculous you’ve become?  I have reduced you to trying to keep a straight face while claiming this utter n…[Read more]

Mike: PROCLAIMER, IF I SPOKE OF “BACK IN THE MORNING OF THE THIRD DAY OF MY GRANDMOTHER” – WOULD I BE TALKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC LITERAL DAY?  OR A VERY LONG UNSPECIFIED PERIOD OF TIME?

 

Proclaimer:  I’m willing to bet that your grandmother is human.

A day for a human is usually 12 or 24 hours.

But not for God.

None of that answers the questi…[Read more]

Proclaimer: When the team was reunited with their gear, they were able to witness the incredible video and photographs that the cameras had produced.

Didn’t I just go through this for Danny?  Didn’t I just post one of your major gods of Scientism, Neil Smokin’ DeGrasse Tyson, saying that even the Virgin Galactic “edge of space” flight – which w…[Read more]

Berean:  Mike, Say me , for You the week starts on Sunday and ends on Saturday or does it start on Monday and ends on Sunday?

For me, because of work, I accept it as starting on Monday and ending on Sunday.  But that’s just convention because of where I live.  I realize that Saturday (named after the god Saturn) is the Jewish sabbath.

Hey Proclaimer and all.  I just stumbled across this while fighting this same fight on a different discussion forum…

Joshua 6:2-15… Then the Lord said to Joshua… March around the city once with all the armed men. Do this for six days…  On the seventh day, march around the city seven times… 

Joshua got up early the next morning and th…[Read more]

Berean: They are ONE IN SPIRIT (MIND), IN HEARTH,

IN GOAL, BUT NOT IN PERSON(they are two divines distinct persons)

Hi Berean.  Two points…

1.  Luke 22:42… “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.”

This verse makes is clear that Jesus has his own will that is different from the will of his Fa…[Read more]

LU:  Berean…

Now, please confirm that you believe the Father is called Yahweh and His own Son is called Yahweh and both are involved in bringing about creation and they are one in unity…correct?

Kathi, now please confirm that the God you worship and serve as the Creator of heaven and earth has a Son named Jesus.

Also please confirm that the Go…[Read more]

LU:  The God of this age is Jesus. He has all authority in heaven and on earth, not satan.

You are wrong, but it doesn’t matter.  I just remembered why we even started talking about 1 Cor 4:4.  You asked for an example of Satan being called a god in scripture.  1 Cor 4:4 was one of the examples I gave you.

If you don’t understand that verse as…[Read more]

LU: You asked about John 10:33 and that it should be translated as “a god.” My answer is no, it is translated as “God” and not “a god” as it should be because of what it says in this verse:

John 5:18

For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God H…

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Mike: But you’ll have to concede that every single one of those things that “existed” before they passed through the birth canal DIDN’T exist before their pre-birth “existence”.

LU:  Did the Son exist before Mary conceived? 

Hmm…  Many will be resurrected from the dead to live again.  They will also have existed before being begotten by God.…[Read more]

Mike: Hi Berean…

Does the God you worship as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and all that in them is have a son and servant named Jesus Christ?  Yes or No?

Berean:  THE ANSWER IS YES .

Your turn, Kathi.  Same question.  What is your direct answer?  Yes or No, please.

Gene: Mike…….So in your logic of the earth being,  only the dry land,  then when God covered theearth with water , the earth disapeared right. “Nonsense” , the earth was still there but covered with water.

Does the Bible say the earth was “formless” and “naught” during the flood, like it says in Gen 1:2?

As usual, Gene, your argument is not wit…[Read more]

Danny: Hi Proclaimer and Mike,

I have a question for both of you:
Can “gravity” be proven?
If not then our earth can’t possibly be a globe!

It cannot be proven true, Danny.  In order to do so, we’d have to take two bodies of mass to a place where no other bodies of mass could act upon them, and see if they are drawn to each other.  We are unab…[Read more]

Proclaimer: And you notice huge discrepancies in the 24 hour day doctrine of Genesis.

I have no discrepancies… but I’m willing to hear you out.

Proclaimer: For example, you say the sun was created on day 3 or 4 or whatever…

No, it’s not “whatever”.  Nor is it me who is saying it.  It is God who taught us that He created the sun on Day 4.  It’s…[Read more]

Proclaimer: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Mike, it’s all very simple.</span>

<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>You say a day is always 24 hours and Genesis is no exception.</span>

I’ve never said that.

Proclaimer: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>But when you see that there is day and night, then you see that day can mean around 12 hours which is not…

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Carmel:  ACCORDING TO YOU, MIKE!

GENESIS 1:1
IS AN INTRODUCTORY STATEMENT!

GENESIS 1:1
IS ALSO GOD’S FIRST ACT OF CREATION!

GENESIS 1:1
GOD DID NOT CREATE THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH!

You can also search and find posts where I argued that heaven was created after earth, because I used to understand Gen 1:2 as referring to an already formed ea…[Read more]

Okay Proclaimer, Gene, and Carmel.  Please challenge my last four posts about the first four days of creation.  Please call out any errors or misunderstandings you think I have.  Please prove my understanding wrong if you can.  Thanks.

The Fourth Day
Gen 1:14-15…  And God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to distinguish between the day and the night, and let them be signs to mark the seasons and days and years. And let them serve as lights in the firmament of heaven to shine upon the earth.” And it was so.
This is the very beginning of the existence of the…[Read more]

The Third Day
Gen 1:9-10… And God said, “Let the waters under the firmament be gathered into one place, so that the dry land may appear.” And it was so. God called the dry land “earth,” and the gathering of waters He called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
Here we learn that, after the waters were separated into the portion below the f…[Read more]

The Second Day
Gen 1:6…And God said, “Let there be a firmament between the waters, to separate the waters from the waters.”
The firmament is clearly a solid object.  We know this because of the meaning of its root word “raqa”, because Job describes it as “hard as a mirror of cast bronze” (37:18), and because it supports the waters above it. …[Read more]