Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 22 2014,17:21)Hi MB,What tent are you living in now?We are already seated in heavenly places with Jesus if we are in himI'm am living in my earthly tent, Nick.Btw, Col 3:1 doesn't say what you claim it does……… at least not that I can see.

Nick and All,The scriptures Kerwin listed in the OP of this thread really say all we need to know on this subject.If Jesus was “born the Christ”, then he was “born the ANOINTED”. That means: BEFORE the Jordan.The following describes an event when Jesus was only 8 days old:Luke 226 It had been revealed to by the Holy Spirit that he would not die…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 22 2014,15:10)Hi MB, Jesus has shown that men in the new bodies can go to heaven. But no scriptures say men will dwell there The meek shall inherit the earth and God will dwell with them.Nick,2 Corinthians 5 1 For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 21 2014,21:10)Hi MB,You should ascribe glory to God for everything Jesus said or did.I do. But that statement hasn't one thing to do with the points I've been waiting patiently for you to address.YES, Jesus was a human being at one time.YES, Jesus came to glorify his and our God, JehovahYES, Jesus couldn't do one single…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 21 2014,21:06)Hi MB,Jesus was a man, not a godActs 222 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:I agree that Jesus was most definitely a man while he was on earth. In fact,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 21 2014,21:03)Hi MB, Yes Jesus Christ said that.The Spirit was speaking through him of courseSo then the SPIRIT was the sentient being who had his own will, but came down from heaven to do God's will instead?YES or NO?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 21 2014,20:31)Hi MB, He was conceived. No surrogacyAnd in my analogy concerning Gabriel being sent to earth to be born of a human woman, could we say that Gabriel was “conceived of Helen” – even though he had lived for eons in heaven before being “conceived of Helen”?If not, what WOULD we call the process by which Gabriel…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 21 2014,20:31)Hi MB, Indeed the Spirit of Christ spoke through him.And so all the natural men became and still remain confused.Nick,A SENTIENT BEING said, “I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he h…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2014,15:26)Mike,Quote I know that's how you understand it.  That's why I made that huge post explaining to you why your understanding can't be the truth of the matter.I'll wait for you to address the many points I made in that post.Could you please let me know which post you are speaking of?  Thank you.9th post on page 20.…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 20 2014,00:36)Mike,Quote Also, are you saying “God's word” is more of a “literal Father” to us than God Himself?I did not say God's word is their father I said God is their Father by his word.Kerwin,God is LITERALLY your Father. He is MORE of a father to you than your earthly father – for your earthly father couldn't begin to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 20 2014,00:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 18 2014,08:56)…….the “daughters of adam” in Gen 6 are the very same “daughters of adam”, from Seth's line, that were mentioned in chapter 5…….Do you have a valid reason to think they weren't?  If so, show it to me.Mike,No daughters were mentioned for Cain's line only sons.  On the o…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 20 2014,00:25)God declared he would not notice Cain.Is that really the way it went down, Kerwin?Here is the curse God actually laid down on Cain:Genesis 411 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it will no l…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 20 2014,02:28)So Mary was his real mother and contributed half his natural human genes. So how does this fit with you view he was the Son of God before he became flesh?Easily, Nick.Imagine that God decided to send His spirit son Gabriel to earth, and have Gabriel be born of a human woman named “Helen”.The end result would…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 19 2014,19:07)Hi MB, Of course Jesus did not exist before his conception in Mary The Spirit of anointing did though.That's not really a DIRECT answer to my question, Nick. But are you saying that “the Spirit of anointing” is who came down from heaven, not to do his own will, but the will of the Father?(I still await your…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 20 2014,23:31)Mike's questions are using man's logic and commonsense.As opposed to what, Wakeup? What should I be using?

Quote (Wakeup @ May 20 2014,03:53)Your questions are too shallow us to answer.Do you speak for journey as well?Perhaps some day you'll change your mind, Wakeup.

Quote (kerwin @ May 21 2014,10:37)The natural body verses the Spiritual body is different because the body is different that the spirit.  The similarity is the natural body is not let by the spirit and the Spiritual body is.Kerwin,There is no such thing as a “spiritual body”.  There is no “BODY” that is “led by spirit”.  A PERSON can either be le…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 21 2014,07:38)of course im not bob marley but we are equal in essence.So then you CAN be “equal to” Bob Marley, since you are not ACTUALLY Bob Marley, right?That is what I'm trying to tell you.I can be “equal to” John the Baptist in “essence”, “nature”, “form”, or whatever word you want to use. But the very fact that I am…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 21 2014,08:57)Quote “Did NOT consider equality with God something TO BE GRASPED” means that Jesus DIDN'T even CONSIDER being equal to his and our God, Jehovah.  In other words, Jesus never gave one thought to the possibility that he could be equal to God.  He knew equality with God was IMPOSSIBLE, so he never even C…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 21 2014,07:38)being equal to bob marley does mean that I AM BOB MARLEY. do you understand english?Apparently better than you do.