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    The pouring on of the Spirit was the symbolic action – intended to be seen my man, and told to others by man.The anointing (setting apart as holy) happened way before that time. (John 10:36)

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    Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2014,21:25)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,11:44)Hi WU, So the dove did not come down and rest on him?It was just playacting? God does not deceive like men doLearn to decern the scriptures; not just read them.The dove was for the record.Proof to John; as a witness to john,and to be written on record for us.Agreed,…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,16:14)Hi MB, You need to respect the anointing of God.Do you think the anointing of Jesus OF NAZARETH at the Jordan led to his works of power? Acts 10.38God did the works through Jesus, Nick. Jesus was powerless on his own.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,16:12)Hi MB, Make your choice of Messiahs then.The scriptures made my choice for me, Nick. Anyone THE SCRIPTURES say was a christ is who I SAY was a christ.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,16:11)Hi MB, Of course SET APART or CHOSEN do not mean ANOINTEDSeparate issuesNo………. NOT separate issues. Read the info I posted for you. The smearing on of oil is merely SYMBOLIC of the act of setting apart.

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    Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2014,15:01)Mike,Yes, I agree with you.

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    Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2014,14:57)No real support for that hypothesis but it sounds reasonable.It's reasonable because God clearly said no man could see His face and live………. yet men have described God's appearance in visions.Again, you must learn to get from point A to point B when the obvious isn't explicitly spelled out for you.  I know…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2014,14:38)Mike,I did post what I could but the link has a good table and I am not sure how to post a table so it looks like a table and not a pile of words.The perfect tense of ascend is past tense and speaks of an ongoing result of the action.For example “The grass has grown taller” is equivalent to the perfect tense and…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ May 22 2014,22:15)MikeQuote (mikeboll @ 64)Second, even if a man “disowned” his son for whatever reason, that man is still the literal father of the boy he disowned.2) He is the one that created Cain and hiding his face from him does not change that.  Then my point has been made. Cain began as a son of God, and being cursed to be…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2014,21:04)Mike B.If you keep on rejecting scriprures that does not agree with you.No, that's you Wakeup.But, back to the subject at hand……… I would like a response to my last post about Isaiah 9:6.I would like to hear your thoughts on the use of the word “father” in Isaiah 22:21.

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    Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2014,14:12)It does not prove Jesus is God.  I do not know why trinitarians attempt to use reason when they are willing to accept the unreasonable statement that God can be tempted by evil even as we are.Trinitarians are unreasonable to even make a translation that says, “No one has ever seen God, but God came to make Him…[Read more]

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    Quote (carmel @ May 23 2014,12:50)THE SECOND TITLE:4:27………… YOUR HOLY CHILD JESUS,KJV. STATES THE SAME!Revelation 3:12 The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ May 22 2014,12:31)Mike,Quote In John 3, Jesus was teaching that we must actually CONSIST OF something other than flesh in order to see or enter the kingdom of God.You are making this statement on your own authority.  You fail to address the verses I gave you.The verses you list don't say anything against what I told you about…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ May 22 2014,12:18)Mike,Quote There is no such thing as a “spiritual body”.  There is no “BODY” that is “led by spirit”.  A PERSON can either be led by spirit or not – but a BODY cannot.Scripture.No, YOU'RE the one making the claim that a non-sentient BODY can be “led by Spirit”.It is YOUR claim, so YOU must be the one to s…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ May 22 2014,11:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2014,12:21)I can be “equal to” John the Baptist in “essence”, “nature”, “form”, or whatever word you want to use.  therefore, Christ is equal with God the father in essence. correct?Therefore it would be possible for you to CLAIM that Christ is equal with God in essence.It wouldn't mean…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 22 2014,09:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2014,12:26)Quote (kerwin @ May 21 2014,10:37)The natural body verses the Spiritual body is different because the body is different that the spirit.  The similarity is the natural body is not let by the spirit and the Spiritual body is.Kerwin,There is no such thing as a “spiritual…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ May 22 2014,07:49)it is written Philippians 2:6GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)6 Although he was in the form of God and equal with God,So let's use the recent analogy we've been using, jammin.Although Mike was in the form of John the Baptist, and equal with John the Baptist…………Now does my sentence mean I also AM John the B…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ May 22 2014,07:45)firstborn of all creation does not mean he was created by God.Sure it does, just like “firstborn from the dead” means he was the first of the dead to be born again.Revelation 3:14 and Proverbs 8:22-25 also back up our understanding of Col 1:15, jammin.

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    Quote (jammin @ May 22 2014,07:37)of course you are not john but you are equal in essence and that is what i am trying to say in this forum but unfortunately, your brain is not working properly.That's funny….. because that is exactly what I'M trying to say also. I am not John, but equal to John in essence…………Jesus is not God, but equal…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2014,19:06)Show me which bible God has refined seven times.Wakeup,The scripture you posted doesn't mention any specific translation of God's word. It doesn't mention any specific “Bible”.So how exactly did your scripture “prove” anything to Pierre?

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