Quote (942767 @ May 23 2014,19:18)But does “firstborn” mean “born” or does it mean created?Either/or, Marty.You were “born”, and yet you are also a “creation” by God.Jesus is also said to have been both “born” and “created”. There is nothing special about using “born”, “begotten”, “brought forth”, or “created” as interchangeable synonyms.The fact…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,13:27)Hi MB, It is the Spirit that was sent not a man, or another god.1 Peter 1:12It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, in these things which now have been announced to you through those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven—things into which angels l…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 23 2014,16:57)Hi MB. 1Cor 86 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.WE IN HIM-God the Father, the Creator, has allowed us to be one with him in the Spirit.WE BY HIM-Jesus Christ, the instrument used by God to enable…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 23 2014,16:31)Certainly the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of sonship, is the SERVANT Spirit.God does not serve Himself but those in the Spirit of Christ do.That Spirit of Christ or Word was with God and was God in the beginningThe “servant spirit of christ” was God in the beginning? Are you sure, Nick?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 23 2014,07:37)……the word Christ comes from the word CHRISTO'S meaning the ANOINTING……..The Greek word “christos” means “anointed”, Gene……. not “anointing”.

Quote (terraricca @ May 22 2014,20:45)COMING IN THE FLESH WHY DID HE SAY IT THIS WAY Yeah Nick,WHY INDEED was that language used?  Has any regular human being in scripture (or history in general) ever been said to have “come in the flesh” – as a way of describing the beginning of their existence on earth?The words “MADE flesh”, and “CAME IN THE…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 22 2014,18:24)The Spirit came from heaven.The Spirit is of God not a sentient being.Nick,I know you are an intelligent person. And because of that, I KNOW you can understand that anyone who said he came down from heaven, NOT TO DO HIS OWN WILL, but to do God's will, is a SENTIENT BEING.You can see my point. And you know…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2014,21:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2014,14:27)Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2014,21:04)Mike B.If you keep on rejecting scriprures that does not agree with you.No, that's you Wakeup.But, back to the subject at hand………  I would like a response to my last post about Isaiah 9:6.I would like to hear your thoughts on the use of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,12:49)Hi MB, Even when God gives you a sign of the anointing happening and tells you for the first time that this is His Son you will not believe?God's only begotten Son is mentioned in Psalm 2:7, and Proverbs 30:4……… long before Jesus was made flesh and ventured out to the Jordan River.We also know from…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,12:46)Hi MB. You say “The actual “anointing” is the act of “setting apart as special or holy”.” But scripture does not say that. Who is your source?Well, The scholar James Strong was one of the 8 people I linked for you yesterday.But Mr. Strong didn't come up with this notion out of thin air, Nick. There are many…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,12:31)Hi MB, There is no more powerful anointing than that of the Holy Spirit. John saw it happen at the Jordan and heard the proclamation of GodYes Nick,At the Jordan, Jesus received the symbolic pouring out of something on him to SHOW he is the one God had already anointed (set apart as His very own, and sent…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 25 2014,10:48)WHEN THE AMBASSADOR GOES TO A COUNTRY HE REPRESENT  HIS KING AND SO IT IS WITH CHRISTThat's right Pierre.  And that ambassador doesn't only represent the king, but he also embodies all the power that king has.If the ambassador makes a deal or a promise, the king is bound to that deal or promise.If one was to s…[Read more]

Quote (gadam123 @ May 25 2014,00:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2014,08:09)Quote (gadam123 @ May 24 2014,00:48)The birth narratives of Jesus never speak about his anointing……. Adam, any scripture that speaks about the CHRIST being born is speaking about God's ANOINTED ONE being born.Those scriptures never speak about the one WHO WILL SOMEDAY BE…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,18:44)Hi WU, So the dove did not come down and rest on him?It was just playacting? God does not deceive like men doNick,Do you think the Holy Spirit ALWAYS looks like a dove?If not, then try to understand that the demonstration at the Jordan was to show MEN that Jesus was endowed with the Holy Spirit.God didn't…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,16:43)Hi MB, Indeed anointing was used by God to establish and empower those chosen for certain works. But the choice and the anointing were separateThe choice IS the real “anointing”, Nick. The smearing on of oil was the symbolic demonstration OF that previous anointing.

Quote (terraricca @ May 25 2014,10:08)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,21:59)Hi WU, Do you or do you not believe God spoke through Jesus Christ when he said “Before Abraham I am”??Nickyour question as no foundation how could this apply to God almighty Abraham is a man and born many generation after Adam ,and why would God tell to the Jews that…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2014,08:54)Something was made flesh; that was not flesh at the beginning. What is that something?John 6:38 makes it clear it was a “someONE”, and not a “someTHING”.So someONE was made flesh, and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son – sent from the Father.SomeONE emptied himself and was made in the…[Read more]

Quote (gadam123 @ May 25 2014,01:03)The question here- was Jesus literally pre-existed his birth? All verses you quoted are indirect references to pre-existence.Hi Adam,The list Pierre quoted for you is quite substantial.  But your take is that these verses are “indirect references”.  We, on the other hand, see them as easy to understand proofs o…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,00:57)Hi MB, You quote Jn 10.36 as evidence of a prelife anointing for Jesus36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?Sanctified yes Anointed noYou do not seem to understand anointing by the Holy Spirit.Nick,Just Google “anoint…[Read more]

Quote (gadam123 @ May 25 2014,00:55)…….what kind of human that Jesus can be if he was pre-existing prior to his birth? Can he be real human like you and me who are born with Adamic nature likely to be tempted and possibility of sinning?Adam, God can make children of Abraham out of stones. If God did so, would it matter that those children…[Read more]