Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,17:16)Hi MB,To confuse the natural minds so they have a choice of giving up or digging deeper?Or even seeking the same SpiritReally? So among those present that day, who do you suppose DIDN'T know that God existed before Abraham did? Nick, this is your understanding of the events:1. The Jews said Jesus wasn't…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,16:56)Hi MB, My you are confused.You need this Spirit Rom 8 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.Romans 8:2 For the law of the life-giving spirit in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,12:45)Hi MB, This what WU said “If you dont believe that God was speaking through Jesus.May God help you.”He knows but do you?Wakeup said those words to Pierre. But tell my why God, speaking through Jesus, would tell everyone that He existed before Abraham did.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,12:28)Hi MB, Yes the Spirit of Christ was before Abraham. The Spirit of Christ was in the prophets 1 peter 1.10-11And this spirit, which you say ALWAYS existed, and was actually God Himself (John 1:1), felt it necessary to speak out of the mouth of the man Jesus of Nazareth, to let those Jews know that “GOD…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,12:24)Hi MB, You say”John 6:38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my will, but to do the will of him who sent me.Jesus himself said these words…… and the words aren't hard to understand.” Do you think God's Spirit is in Jesus?Do you agree the Spirit of Christ speaks through the Son?Nick,What I think is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,16:14)Hi MB, So because he spoke of his body it was not the Spirit speaking through him?So you have yet to hear the Spirit in Jesus? Will you?Nick, Do you concede that it was NOT the “body” of the “spirit” that was raised up, and therefore NOT the “spirit” who spoke of raising his own body up?Let me know when you…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 25 2014,16:08)“In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:  Who is the image of the invisible God, the “FIRSTBORN” of every creature:”(Col 1:14-15)Hi Everyone,This verse has caused much confusion, some even believing that the word “firstborn” is a coded message to us to mean: 'THE FIRST BEING TO…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,16:29)Hi MB, A new creation 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.But how can a creature become a NEW creature, Nick?Perhaps the creature Jesus also became a NEW CREATURE when he emptied himself to be born of Mary. A…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,16:28)Hi MB, All those can be explained when you know the Spirit of ChristYou mean “rationalized”, right Nick?They don't need any “rationalization”. They are crystal clear just how they were written.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,16:23)Hi MB, I used to believe as you do till I faced the conception issue.Really?    So that one little Greek word threw your whole belief system out of whack?Nick, the overall teaching of scriptures is not decided by one odd word here, or one odd phrase there.For example, Jesus isn't all of a sudden God A…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,15:43)Do we work on what God can POSSIBLY DO or what is revealed?But you have not answered my question about the same word being used for the conception of Jesus as for John.We work on what has been revealed, Nick. Like the things revealed in those 50+ scriptures a few of us put together in the “Preexistent…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,15:30)Hi MB, The setting up of the kingdom physically on earth has not happened yet and that is most of what ps 2 is about.The decree was spoken by God in prophecy in ps 2 and occurred and was heard at the JordanThe decree was said to Jesus himself before, or at the time the psalm was written.Those words were…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,15:28)Hi MB,Jesus did not exist till his conception just like you.I did not exist until I was BORN, Nick.Yet Jesus existed on earth for 33 years BEFORE he was BORN from the dead.Hmmmm…………..I have been CONCEIVED of flesh. Yet if I am to ever enter the kingdom of God, I will have to be CONCEIEVE again, of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,15:59)Hi MB, Can you see now that it was the SPIRIT that was speaking in Jn 2 Please answerNo Nick…………John 2:21 But the temple he had spoken of was his body.Do you suppose it was the BODY of the SPIRIT that was raised up after three days?If not, then there is another answer, right?  I know that answer.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,15:47)Hi MB, Jesus Christ came in the flesh.But you offer this”Do you believe that JESUS came in the flesh?  Or do you stick with your antichrist message that Jesus DIDN'T come in the flesh? ” Why take away from scripture? That is dangerousAnd who exactly is “Jesus Christ”, Nick?What does that “name” mean? (I…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,14:49)Hi MB,The new creation is from the dead who are rebornWhat's that got to do with the price of tea in China, Nick?Can a person be CREATED more than one time?Can a person be BORN more than one time?If so, then you are a hypocrite to say a person cannot be CONCEIEVED more than one time.Shoot, Jesus was born…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ May 25 2014,14:43)You are using the NET bible translation of proverbs 8:22 which uses the word “created”, and the KJV uses the word “possessed”, which I believe is more accurate………From NETNotes, concerning Prov 8:22:There are two roots קָנָה (qanah) in Hebrew, one meaning “to possess,” and the other meaning “to create.” The…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,14:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 26 2014,07:07)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,13:34)Hi MB, Jesus did not come in the flesh1 John 4:2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,1 John 4:3And every spirit that confesseth not that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,15:20)Hi MB,Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.So it was the Spirit that raised Jesus and he did not raise himself.Read it a little more closely, Nick.…[Read more]

For example, I said this:Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2014,14:49)What does “born” mean, Nick?  Does it usually happen TWICE to one person?  Yet we can be “born AGAIN”, right?What about “created”?  Doesn't that usually happen only ONCE to a person?  Yet we can become “NEW creations”, right?So, is it POSSIBLE for God to take an already existing spi…[Read more]