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    I remember reading where Wakeup once posted some historical events surrounding the KJV translation – and considered those events to be proof that the KJV is the only Bible that was purified seven times.I don't remember all the details, but I'm sure that story is what he's been chomping at the bit to tell you.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,11:48)Hi MB, No the word was with God and was God. The Spirit of Christ is of the eternal Spirit of God.  The Spirit spoke the truth through the servant vesselNo Nick,”God” was never said to have been with “God”.  The entire idea is ludicrous, and came about from Trinitarian translators who knew the Word in John 1…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2014,23:31)PROOF OF THE PUDDING.Psalms 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.I don't see “King James Version”, or “Bible” in that verse, Wakeup.So I don't see how it fits the question you asked Pierre, which was, Which BIBLE has been purified seven times?Of…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2014,19:29)AND HE (JESUS) SHALL BE A FATHER TO THE INHABITANTS OF JERUSALEM.“A father”? Or “THE Father”?Which does the KJV say in Isaiah 22:21, Wakeup?Also:Isaiah 2220 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will call my servant Eliakim the son of Hilkiah:21 And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (journey42 @ May 26 2014,06:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 26 2014,10:35)Nick,Tell my why God, speaking through Jesus, would tell everyone that He existed before Abraham did. I mean, who WOULDN'T know such a thing already?Hi MikeYou've asked Nick this so many times and I see he cannot answer.I'll answer instead.The reason why Jesus told them he…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (gadam123 @ May 26 2014,05:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 26 2014,04:19)Quote (gadam123 @ May 25 2014,00:55)…….what kind of human that Jesus can be if he was pre-existing prior to his birth? Can he be real human like you and me who are born with Adamic nature likely to be tempted and possibility of sinning?Adam, God can make children of…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (gadam123 @ May 25 2014,23:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 26 2014,05:13)John 6:38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my will, but to do the will of him who sent me.Jesus himself said these words…… and the words aren't hard to understand.I believe those words of Jesus, Adam.  Do you?I am aware of these verses brother Mike. But how…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2014,17:54)Mike,It is not my interpretation it is what the words mean.Which word? The one that REALLY means “made of dust/earth”?

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    Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2014,17:47)Mike,By these passages I establish that the kingdom of God being spoken of is not the present heaven where there are spiritual forces of evil as well as God and his angels.I don't see it. I don't know of any new “kingdom of God”, Kerwin. I know of a new heavens, and a new earth – but I don't know of a new…[Read more]

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    Nick,For the umpteenth time, I KNOW that God worked through Jesus via His Spirit. I DON'T deny that, so please stop making it sound like I do. ???Jesus himself said he came down from heaven to do the will of his Father.Jesus hinted that some of those standing there would later see him ascend to where he was before.Then, some of those who were…[Read more]

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    Pierre,I believe those two things also. And even as I'm believing them, I also believe God literally sits on a throne that is next to the throne Jesus literally sits on.

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    Quote (942767 @ May 25 2014,17:43)Hi Ed:I agree with you in what you are saying to MikeI agree with what Ed said too, Marty.But I also agree with the other scriptures that say God created all things through Jesus. You and Ed seem to only believe half of the story.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,17:14)Hi MB,Rom 816 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:He was like us.Yes, Jesus lost none of those given to him by God. Now his spirit bears witness with the spirit of those who follow him that we are also God's children – just like Jesus is.

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    Quote (Ed J @ May 25 2014,17:13)Hi Mike, The bible says “God” created all things ALL things A-L-O-N-E.I agree with that, Ed.But do YOU agree with the many scriptures that say God did such a thing THROUGH His firstborn Son, Jesus the Anointed?See……. I can accept BOTH teachings, because I know what Tertullian knew:  He who creates is one, and…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ May 25 2014,17:01)The context of a verse of scripture may dictate that the Hebrew word translated possessed in the KJV should be translated as create, is true, but Proverbs 8 really is speaking about wisdom, and relates to Jesus, to be sure, but the God did not create wisdom, but He does possess it,Marty,What about verses 23-25?…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,16:42)Hi MB, His body was being spoken of. And that old battered body was raised by God through His SpiritNick,Did THE SPIRIT raise up his own body in three days?Because whoever said, “I will raise it up” was speaking about raising HIS OWN body.John said JESUS said the words. But you aim to correct John.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago

    Nick,Tell my why God, speaking through Jesus, would tell everyone that He existed before Abraham did. I mean, who WOULDN'T know such a thing already?

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    Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2014,17:23)There is a body led by the soul and a body led by the Spirit.I don't remember any scriptures that say such a thing, Kerwin.Are you talking about YOUR interpretation of 1 Cor 15, which REALLY contrasts the human earthly body made of dust from the heavenly body made of spirit?

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,14:30)Hi MB, Listen to wakeup”If you dont believe that God was speaking through Jesus.May God help you.”I believe Jesus spoke exactly what God instructed him to speak. I have never denied that God spoke through Jesus – just like God spoke through Moses, David, Elijah, Samuel, etc……..

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,17:24)Hi MB, Those who have received the Spirit of Christ and walk according to the Spirit fulfil the law. You need the SpiritI have it. It is what gives me the strength to come to this site, day after day, and spend my time trying to teach scriptural truth.Thank you Jesus, for letting me share in your…[Read more]

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