mikeboll64 replied to the topic Was flesh mortal before god cursed it to decay? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ May 26 2014,17:53)There is some things that seem to contradict your reasoning that Cain misunderstood everything God said. One is that it is written that:Genesis 4:16New English Translation (NET)16 So Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.As you point out David said there is no…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Was flesh mortal before god cursed it to decay? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ May 26 2014,14:16)Mike,So you believe Cain misunderstood everything God states and not just that he believed that as an outlaw he was free for anyone to kill. I think that is a reasonable interpretation.The main thing to realize is that God Himself never banished Cain “from His presence”. God Himself never “disowned” Cain.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,17:57)Hi MB, Entity? not sure that is the word.Spirit is not anointed but anoints.Well then, you have a problem. Because this “Spirit of Anointing” that you and Gene invented doesn't exist in any scripture.There is something called “the spirit of Christ”, which means “the spirit of the anointed“.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,17:45)Hi MB,So we can rationalise away a serious bit of scriptural advice?It no longer means what it says??I'm beginning to think YOU no longer mean what YOU say, Nick.
Which scripture am I rationalizing? Which scripture am I making to no longer mean what it says? And how exactly did I do that?See? I'm not sure…[Read more]mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,17:41)Hi MB, If an unclean spirit can speak though a man as if the man was speaking why can you not yet hear the Holy Spirit in the man Christ Jesus?How do you know it was “as if the man was speaking”? Show me, because I've always wondered if the man's own lips were moving to make the words, of if the voice came…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,17:33)Hi MB, You speak of the Spirit of Christ?I speak of the Anointed spirit being who dwelled in heaven before becoming flesh and dwelling on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son.I would word it “Spirit Christ”, not “Spirit OF Christ”.But either way, as long as we are talking about a spirit entity who…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 26 2014,17:18)Terricca”……..it is absolutely amazing how you can twist and turn simple truths . Out of one side of you mouth you say God is a spirit then you say no one is part of his personal being……….God is both a spirit and a person, Gene.So is Michael, Jesus, Gabriel, Satan, etc.Most people understand the…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 26 2014,17:03)Nick…….I tell you they simply do not get it, brother. Hebrews tells uS that GOD SPOKE,in times past in different ways “THROUGH” the prophets, and has “SPOKEN” in the latter days “THROUGH” a SON. So who was speaking “THROUGH” all of these people scripture say GOD was. I tell you they just do not get it…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 26 2014,16:42)This all goes right over their heads Nick they have not a clue it seems.Gene,Perhaps it's going over our heads because you keep saying that the word “christos” means “anointing” when it doesn't.It means “anointed (one)”.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,13:56)Hi MB,You say”(2) To me, the “spirit of Christ” is simply Jesus the Anointed's spirit. It is the spirit of the person we know as “Jesus the Christ (Anointed One). Just like your spirit could be called “the spirit of Adam”, and mine could be called “the spirit of Mike”.” So what does Rom 8 mean when it sa…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,13:12)Hi MB,You forgot to answer this so I will repeat it. Mk 123 And there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out,24 Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.25 And Jesus…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,13:10)Hi MB, Jesus was a man.He was a creature of God.Yes Nick, he was. But first, he was existing in the form of God BEFORE being made in the likeness of a human being.You only tell half of the story, because you only BELIEVE half of the story. How much you miss.

mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,12:50)The Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of anointing.The Greek word for “Christ” is “cristos”. It means “anointed”.The Greek word for “anointing” is “crisma”.That Greek word (“anointing”) is in the NT three times:1 John 2:20 Nevertheless you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know. 1 John 2:27…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,12:50)Scripture calls men gods Have they been in heaven?Actually, in John 10:38, Jesus points out that other, lesser ones than he had been called gods in scripture, so why not the HIGHER one whom God set apart as His very own and sent into the world.It is just one more scripture that shows us Jesus is indeed a…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,18:09)Hi MB,The Spirit became one with Jesus.Can you not understand at all?No Nick,The MAN who existed on earth as Jesus of Nazareth actually WAS that spirit being who God caused to be born from the womb of a woman.It isn't a matter of some spirit coming to dwell IN Jesus. The true scriptural teaching is that this…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2014,19:05)1) Paul did not know if a man was in his body or out of his body when he entered the third heaven.Did Paul specifically mention the man's EARTHLY FLESH BODY?If not, the Paul could have just as easily been saying, “I know of a man who went to heaven. I don't know if he was in bodily form in heaven, or just a…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2014,19:05)2) 1 Corinthians mentions inheriting the kingdom of God and that is always the world to come and not the present earth or the present heaven.Kerwin,I'm still baffled about his “current heaven” versus “new heaven” talk.Nor is the kingdom of God “always the world to come”. I don't know where you got that from.I thin…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2014,18:37)Mike,The last Adam, aka the inner man, is a life given spirit just as Genesis bears witness.Did you mean “life-giving“, Kerwin?If so, in what way is a person's “inner man” able to GIVE life to themselves or others?
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2014,18:35)I think Peter said the transfigure occurred to declare Jesus' majesty.So God made Jesus to shine as brilliantly as the sun to declare Jesus' majesty, but now that Jesus has been exalted to the highest position anyone can attain, he looks like a regular old non-shiny human being, full of the scars from his earthly…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2014,18:28)The new body is derived from the old body just as a plant is derived from its seed. Even then God could have formed it without scars if he so chose to. The point is that Jesus' body did not see corruption in the day nor would it see corruption any more after he was raised. That is because when it was raised it…[Read more]
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