Thanks Danny.  How goes your investigation?  Hopefully you’re learning so many things about reality that simply don’t fit into the heliocentric model.  I know I sure did.  But mostly, I learned to think logically (and scripturally) about EVERY claim made by “the powers that be”.

Mike: Joshua 6:2-15… Then Yahweh said to Joshua… March around the city once with all the armed men. Do this for six days…  On the seventh day, march around the city seven times… 

IS GOD TALKING TO JOSHUA ABOUT SIX LITERAL DAYS FOLLOWED BY A SEVENTH LITERAL DAY?  YES OR NO?

Exodus 20:9-11… Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the s…

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Mike: Kathi, I also just noticed something in Rev 3:12 that might be huge.  Notice that Jesus is going to write on them (1) the name of his God, (2) the name of the city of his God, ie: New Jerusalem, and (3) his own new name.

What the freak?  Is that Jesus telling us point blank that “Yahweh Our Righteousness” IS the name of New Jerusa…

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LU: Mike,

The God that I worship as the creator is Yahweh who is both the Father and the Son together, two distinct persons who created the world in unity. So, your answer is “NO,” the Father and the Son together as the creator do not have a son named Jesus, the Son who created with the Father as Yahweh, is Jesus.

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Mike: They are not only two distinct persons, as you pointed out.  They are also two distinct gods. 

Berean:  Show me the apostles of Christ speaking this way, please.

John 1:18… No one has ever seen God; the only begotten god, who is close relationship with the Father, he has explained Him.

Is that good enough for you to see that there is o…[Read more]

Okay Proclaimer, I’ve been spending way too much time addressing your nonsensical memes, videos, and claims.  I only came back to this thread in case Danny had any questions to ask or insights to share on his journey.  And while I was here, I figured I’d see if you would be able to answer any of my “Bible Vs Scientism” claims that you ran away f…[Read more]

Mike: And how does your claim that it’s true 100% of the time align with the fact that Einsteinian gravity, Newtonian gravity, and quantum gravity are at odds with each other?

Proclaimer:  Not correct. Einstein perfected Newton’s gravity and he visualised it. I’m not 100% sure, but I think Newton’s equations didn’t work with acceleratio…

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Proclaimer: Look at the old video I posted. Team Globe demonstrated the gravitational attraction between objects and as chances would have it, they are not down. Watch it. I’ve even located the relevant section in the video for you.

I watched the experiment.  Using your own logical thinking, did anything about it strike you as odd?  No?  Okay,…[Read more]

Berean: Maybe the word “LAND” never refers to the whole world “land AND sea” (I haven’t checked all the verses) BUT WHAT I MEAN MOSTLY IS THAT THE WORD “EARTH” ALSO MEANS IN CERTAIN PASSAGES OF THE BIBLE”THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH”.

Yes, the word “earth” is sometimes idiomatically used in the Bible to refer to the people who live ON the earth.…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  This video is about gravity
If you think it is wrong, then Mike, why not do a similar video about downity and explain the math.

The math for ME knowing that things heavier than air fall DOWN to the earth is the same exact math you use for the same exact phenomena.

We all agree that heavier things fall DOWN to earth… and we even…[Read more]

Danny:  Common sense tells every free-thinking person correctly that there truly is an “up” and “down” in nature.

Proclaimer: Up is away from the centre of mass and down is toward the centre of mass. Simple.

Okay, we hear your claim.  Now all you have to do is prove it.  Keep in mind while you’re attempting to complete your task that God dwells…[Read more]

Berean: Mike,

I sent you something about “Why Genesis”
Thanks for taking a look anyway, because you didn’t answer completely about the use of the word “earth”.

I think you are wrong that “earth” (erets) sometimes refers to the “world” (tebel).  I don’t find any of the scriptures you presented to support your claim – and even directly addressed a…[Read more]

Carmel: IF THE EARTH/LAND  WAS NEVER IN EXISTENCE God would have said:

LET THE DRY LAND BE! NO? 

BUT SINCE THE EARTH/LAND PRE-EXISTED UNDER THE WATER HE SAID LET THE DRY LAND “APPEAR”!

Okay, I hear your argument and acknowledge that the wording is different when it comes to the earth.   But it’s also different when it comes to vegetati…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Obviously at this point I can assume that you guys flunked science. 

Let’s hear the basis for that insult…

Proclaimer:  You want me to explain why people in Australia don’t fall off the globe. Dude, that question is from the stone age. Lol. It’s fine to ask the question, but to think it is an intelligent question or that you are ri…

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Danny: Hi Mike,

I clearly gave Proclaimer the argument 113) from Eric’s book.
He blatantly ignored it. Intentionally?
I have posted it to him again.
How will Proclaimer respond? Is HE trapped?

Welcome to my world, Danny.  I started this thread many years ago with good intentions.  And it started off with some lively discussion.  But event…[Read more]

Proclaimer: So I guess you hold the view that God rested for 24 hours from creating the heavens and earth and since that day, he must be back at work creating other heavens. Is that what you believe?

Gen 2:1-2… Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. And by the seventh day God had finished the work He had been…[Read more]

Proclaimer: Debunking Mike’s 90 second video.

My take? Big deal man. Different camera lenses, different zoom or different wide angle. Both show curvature. 

That’s a “debunk”?  😂😅

Your own words say it all… “Both show curvature.”

Yep.  A balloon at 20 miles up shows the SAME EXACT curvature that the ISS shows.  And we know that you can’t…[Read more]

Mike:  How so?  Why would a geologist need to know the shape of the earth to study plate tectonics?

Proclaimer: In particular, geologists would have to lie about the plates in the southern hemisphere as the shapes and area sizes on a flat earth would be wildly different… So geologists would have to lie when they provide this map of the p…

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Mike: See Danny?  Insults, not answers or explanations.

 

Proclaimer:  I post explanations so you are clearly wrong. Hundreds of explanations actually.

So what you said is actually not true Mike.

Then put your money where your mouth is…

Joshua 6:2-15… Then Yahweh said to Joshua… March around the city once with all the armed men. Do this fo…[Read more]

Hey Proclaimer, what do you make of that 90 second video I posted for Gene?  Can you “debunk” the point I lay out so clearly in it? 😉