mikeboll64 replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (942767 @ June 01 2014,18:02)How can you agree with Mike, if there is no scripture to support what he is saying?But now I've pointed you to the scriptures I used to make that statement, right Marty? So there should be no more issues with it, right?(If you need me to quote the exact words I used in my statement from those 3 or 4 scriptures,…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2014,16:42)The sonship to God inthrough Mary also made him a Son of God as flesh.But that sonship did not anoint or empower him.But it WAS still a “sonship”, right Nick?And that means Jesus was the Son of God long before the Jordan.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2014,16:22)Hi Ed, Yes God fathered Jesus and Mary supplied the egg so in this way his parenthood was not exclusively of God. He came SON OF MAN. The Spirit makes him exclusively SON OF GOD and we can follow him into this sonship.See how the story just got a little more involved, Ed?
If it's broken, just add more…[Read more]mikeboll64 replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2014,15:55)Thanks Mike, It's good when we agree!
It's good FOR YOU when we agree, Ed. Because those are the times that you are aligned with the truth of the scriptures.
(Btw, you're the confused little guy on the left. That's me on the right, bouncing some scriptural sense into you. See how happy that makes both of u…mikeboll64 replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (942767 @ June 01 2014,15:44)He said when he was in the Synagogue and his mother came looking for him: “don't you realize that I must be about my Father's business”?How old was Jesus when he said those words, Marty? I wonder how many of his peers of the same age would say such a thing.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (942767 @ June 01 2014,15:10)Hi Mike:You say:Quote scriptures that say God sent His only begotten Son DOWN FROM HEAVEN to be born of Mary………. ACCORDING TO THE FLESH.What scriptures say that he sent his only begotten Son down from heaven to be born of mary, according to the flesh?That he came down from heaven is true. I was using a…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ May 31 2014,13:23)Mike,2 Enoch may not say he was there in his flesh body but it does say he was changed into a body that was like “(transfigured) one of his glorious ones.” That is in verse 22:9 and after he saw God's face in 22:1-3 as he was in the tenth and highest heaven.Thanks for sharing that, Kerwin. It had to be hard for…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ May 31 2014,12:55)20:1 And those two men lifted me up thence on to the seventh heaven, and I saw there a very great light, and fiery troops of great archangels, incorporeal forces, and dominions, orders and governments, Cherubim and seraphim, thrones and many-eyed ones, nine regiments, the Ioanit stations of light, and I became…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Was flesh mortal before god cursed it to decay? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 1 month ago
Well, just stick to Genesis 6, in accordance with Genesis 5, then.The “daughters of adam” mentioned in chapter 5 are the very same “daughters of adam” mentioned in chapter 6…… ie: the daughters of Seth's lineage.And that means that the “sons of God” took the “daughters of Seth's lineage” as wives, and mated with them.Who then are these “sons…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ May 31 2014,13:48)Mike,You agree with Gene when you claim the Spirit can only rule the spirit of a man and not their body. In the current world the Spirit does only rule the spirit and not the physical world. In the current heaven the Spirit's rule is more extensive, as the bodies of angels are immortal, but even there r…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago
Nick,John, the one who witnessed the events surrounding the words said in John 6:38, and wrote them down for all of us, said it was JESUS who said the words.Is it okay for you to ADD your theory that it was really someone else who said those words, when the SCRIPTURE says it was JESUS who said them?Are you being a hypocrite? Because you are…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Wakeup, journey mike only in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2014,21:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 01 2014,06:17)Isaiah 9:7Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever.Jesus isn't going anywhere……….. EVER. The Wo…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic The “AKJV Bible” in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Ed J @ May 31 2014,14:34)Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2014,03:25)Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2014,02:56)Hi Mike,Do you agree that רָע should be translated as 'EVIL' in Genesis 2:17?Is your answer “No” then?Is your answer “Yes” then?My answer is “NO, it should be translated as 'bad', to make a better contrast.”(The KJV translates the word as “bad” 13…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2014,02:20)He is the first to be resurrected -and the sons of the resurrection become one with him.Funny how you understand “firstborn from the dead” to mean Jesus was the “first to be resurrected”…….. but you can't understand “firstborn of every creature” in the same manner.
Can anyone say “BIAS”?mikeboll64 replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2014,00:42)Hi ED,The Spirit of anointing is what Jesus received at the Jordan making him the Son of God aloneSo the fact that God is the one who actually CONCEIVED Jesus in the womb of Mary didn't make Jesus God's Son?Come on, Nick…………
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Ed J @ May 31 2014,23:47)Hi Nick,”the spirit of Christ” is the spirit of the Sonand the HolySpirit is the Spirit of the Father.That is correct, Ed.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2014,23:28)Hi Ed,Scripture says this about John BUT NOT ABOUT JESUS.”he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb”So where are the scriptures that support what you state”Jesus had “the spirit of Christ” from his birth,” ??John was born of a sinful earthly father, and yet had the Holy Spirit from…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (942767 @ May 31 2014,21:28)Quote (kerwin @ June 01 2014,14:08)Since John the Baptist whom was yet in his mother's womb and of about 6 months from his conception was able to through the spirit recognize Marry was the mother of the Messiah Jesus was able to bear the fruit of the Spirit at the same time.Hi Kerwin:The scriptures state that…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (942767 @ May 31 2014,17:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 01 2014,06:40)Did Isaac have an earthly father, Nick? Jesus didn't.Mike:Of course he had an earthly Father, Joseph, his stepfather, but we know that he was not born of the sperm of Joseph, but was conceived by the Holy Ghost, in the womb of the virgin Mary. He is unique in that way. …[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 1 month ago
Quote (942767 @ May 31 2014,16:55) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)It's because “God's Son”, “The Word”, and “Our Lord Jesus Christ” are all the same exact being.I already stated that the Word of God pertains to Jesus, and it through obedience to the Word of God unto death unto sin that his spirit was formed………I'm happy to see that you've come this…[Read more]
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