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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago

    First address the clear points and comparisons I just made for you.THEN we can talk about the bread from heaven.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,20:19)Hi T, What of Mt 1019 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.Same here.  The Spirit of the Father would GIVE them the words…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,20:05)Hi MB, Not like the voices from the demons coming out of their victims then?John 17:8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them.Are you beginning to understand, Nick? God GAVE Jesus words to speak. Jesus then spoke those words to the people.God wasn't literally and directly saying things…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,19:15)Hi MB,.”..who by the way has a will of his own that is DIFFERENT than the will of the God he belongs to………… but even so, he's NOT a “sentient person”.” Theological babblewhy not discuss what is written?My thoughts EXACTLY, Nick!  :)Your theory IS “theological babble, and we SHOULD discuss what is…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ June 04 2014,19:04)Eze 29:2 “Son of man, set your face against Pharaoh king of Egypt and prophesy against him and against all Egypt. Eze 29:3 Speak to him and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says:so prophets only receive the words and then say them to others this as been my complete understanding through the scriptures ;[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 05 2014,11:03)Quote (kerwin @ June 03 2014,10:23)Mike,Quote He is literally the lamp that God sent into the world to shine some spiritual light on us.John 9:5 states he was the light of the world only as long as he was in the world.I can see where he is figuratively the lamp that shines the light of the world but I have always…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ June 05 2014,10:44)Quote (jammin @ June 05 2014,22:38)is all powerful not part of God's essence?the president as a powerful hand………That's a good point, Pierre.If my dad could bench press 1000 pounds, it doesn't mean that I can do the same. The ability to lift a car would not be part of the “essence” of a human being -…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ June 05 2014,10:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 05 2014,10:51)Quote (jammin @ June 04 2014,10:20)no version says that THE LORD who made the heaven and the earth in heb 1.10 is NOT the son.There is also no GREEK version that says those words were said about the Son.But back to the scriptures I listed, jammin…….. since I listed mine…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ June 05 2014,10:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 05 2014,11:09)Quote (jammin @ June 04 2014,10:23)mike,what is the essence of GOd?The essence of God is “spirit”.  He is a SPIRIT being, and therefore “SPIRIT” is His essence.Jesus, Michael, Gabriel, and the myriads of other spirit sons of God also share that same SPIRIT essence.But none…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 05 2014,11:12)You want to see the words so I have to either go back to the post or find the LXX verse for you.Okay. Please do so.I only ask because I'm sure you are incorporating a “second kind of giant” into the words.I don't think the words themselves actually imply such a thing.

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    Kerwin,Kangaroo Jack once listed a stat that said 67% of the OT quotes found in the NT are from the LXX.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,17:44)Hi MB, 1.  Of course Jesus was conceived in Mary . 2.  So he had not been in heaven.3.  Perhaps the Spirit of Christ was speaking through him?1.  Absolutely.  Jesus was indeed the son of Mary……… according to the flesh.2.  Wrong.  He was existing in the form of God BEFORE he emptied himself and was ma…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,13:05)All is of God and His Spirit.Here Nick,Let me correct what you wrote:All is of God and His Spirit……..who by the way has a will of his own that is DIFFERENT than the will of the God he belongs to………… but even so, he's NOT a “sentient person”.There, that's a more accurate accounting of what you…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (gadam123 @ June 05 2014,00:33)I know there are so called gods exist…… Hi Adam,Did you know there is not one single Hebrew or Greek verse in the entire Bible that mentions a “so-called god”, or a “false god”?Those are English words, which were ADDED to the scriptures. But consider:Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2014,20:23)hi T, Scripture does not say that . Jesus Christ said I CAMECan you hear the Spirit?Scripture does not say that Jesus came down from heaven? ???That's a blatant lie, Nick.Scripture absolutely says that Jesus said the words in John 6:38. And the word “Christ” isn't even mentioned in that chapter. So it was…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ June 05 2014,07:49)Quote (gadam123 @ June 05 2014,20:31)…….the birth narratives rightly state that the Jesus 'will be' called son of God after his birth not prior to his birth. The word 'will be' is so clear every where in these narrations. I don't know why our brothers Mike and Terraricca close their eyes to these simple…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2014,22:09)Jesus Himself will be subject to God.If God's image, Jesus, is not a different person – what does it mean for him to be “subject to God”?

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    Quote (Wakeup @ June 04 2014,18:38)Can your image be another person?So then we're back to the Word actually BEING God again? ??? To which you'll say, “NO, I never said he was God.  I said he was the IMAGE OF GOD!”  :)It is a never-ending cycle of flip-flops with you, Wakeup.You apparently think Jesus ISN'T a different person than God.  But there are so…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ June 03 2014,19:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 04 2014,10:58)Marty,That doesn't address the point, since Jesus was indeed a FLESH being from the moment he came out of Mary's womb.Jesus was never anything BUT flesh from the moment he was born on earth.So you won't read:  After his baptism, God sent Jesus in the likeness of sinful…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 1 month ago

    Gene? Adam? I'm waiting to hear YOUR thoughts about that post I mentioned from page 581. 4th post down.

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