Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2014,01:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2014,13:24)Ed, there are too many holes in your doctrine to count, but tell me who you think said the words of John 6:38.Hi Mike, “For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.”  (John 6:38)  The “I” in John 6:38, “I”(Ed J) believe, refers to “…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2014,01:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2014,13:24)(1)Plus, the following three scriptures shoot down your “The Word is the Holy Spirit” theory:John 14:26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2014,01:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2014,13:24)……….it doesn't take any “ADDING” to the scriptures by us to understand that Phil 2:6-8 tells how JESUS was existing in the form of God before emptying himself and being made in the likeness of a human being.But it does take “ADDING” to the scriptures to conclude he was…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2014,01:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2014,13:24)……..are you saying that “Jesus” used to BE God, but then “branched off” from God to become an individual living entity who was NO LONGER God?Hi Mike,   Your wording is a bit awkward, but that is primarily it.     Like taking a leaf from a tree, you cannot call an in…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2014,00:00)MIke b.Jesus's job will only finish after all are judged, and made spirit. Satan and his angels cast into the lake of fire.The earth will be renewed; then God will be all in all.That should not be hard to understand.Agreed.So since Satan is released at the END of the thousand year reign, but isn't yet…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 21 2014,23:13)Mike,Luke 1:26 is similar and probably should be translated from instead of by.  On the other hand John 1:6 has a different word translated from. Zechariah 7:12 is another interesting one.  There is a lot to look at though.NETNotes:Luke 1:26 Or “from.” The account suggests God’s planned direction in these events,…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 21 2014,22:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2014,10:29)Quote (terraricca @ June 21 2014,20:57)Mike,to my understanding people do not die and keep jumping up some were as another person ,this is not the way of God the creator of all things,MT 17:10 And His disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must c…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 21 2014,22:44)Mike,It could either mean physically sent from heaven or ordered by heaven.So you keep saying…….. but I've yet to see any scriptural (or even secular) proof of your latter claim.

I'm not arguing against the ten heavens, Kerwin. I'm giving you a polite nudge to REMIND you that Enoch had to have his body completely changed into a body like the glorious ones have, before he could enter the 10th heaven.

Quote (942767 @ June 21 2014,21:04)Jesus spoke the Words that the Father told him to speak…………This is true…….. to a certain point. But it was obviously not THE FATHER who spoke the words of John 6:38, because THE FATHER wasn't sent down from heaven to do the will of the one who sent Him, right?That's why I started a couple of…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 21 2014,21:04)Hi Mike:I don't know what kind of game you think you are playing, but I do not feel like going to the routine of stating that Jesus spoke the Words that the Father told him to speak over and over to you as if you did not hear the first time.So is your answer that the living BEING known as Jesus Christ spoke the…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 21 2014,20:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2014,13:28)Wakeup and journey,Who will judge those who are raised in the second resurrection?  It is, after all, called “The Lamb's Book of Life”, right?Mikeb.Nothing has changed,God always speaks through His Word.The difference is that after the thousand years,God will notspeak…[Read more]

Pierre, when scripture says Jehovah took Elijah into heaven in a whirlwind, tell me which part of that says Elijah DIED ON EARTH. In other words, where in the world would you come up with the conclusion that Elijah DIED ON EARTH from those words that were written?

Quote (terraricca @ June 21 2014,20:57)Mike,to my understanding people do not die and keep jumping up some were as another person ,this is not the way of God the creator of all things,MT 17:10 And His disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?” MT 17:11 And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will resto…[Read more]

Good work, Kerwin.  So it seems that Enoch and Elijah never actually DIED, but were CHANGED into glorious heavenly beings upon their ascension into heaven.Just like those who are raised to a citizenship in heaven will also be CHANGED into glorious heavenly beings upon their ascension into heaven, right?   Just like Enoch was CHANGED into a g…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 20 2014,00:10)MikeQuote No, flesh cannot inherit heaven.  I have never thought (or claimed) that Enoch and Elijah were taken into heaven in a flesh body, Pierre.so we agree that they have died in the flesh ;so their soul went up to wait ;nothing wrong with that ;Enoch received what Daniel got from the angel ;In my…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 20 2014,00:04)MikeQuote Do you suppose God WASN'T capable of transforming a living human into a living heavenly being before Christ died.it is not that God almighty can or cannot do ;God does things in a certain way ; and we cannot change that way ,if we do it shows we do not believe what he says or do ,but the truth as to…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 19 2014,23:54)4)For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.to my understanding all flesh will die ;but the time we (our soul)will stay in wait this varies sins Abel until the endThe dead will be RAISED imperishable………. we (those who are alive at the time) will be…[Read more]

Charles,I just noticed that the word “theos” (god) in Phil 2:6 is not preceded by the definite article (the).In cases like that, we must decide if it should be translated as, was existing in the form of God“, or, “was existing in the form of a god“.Now that I've just noticed this, I'm leaning towards “a god”, since it make a better contrast to “for…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2014,19:10)Marty, this is what I referred to earlier:John 635 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe.”Who do you think said the words of verses 35-…[Read more]