Mike:  I think that it clearly refers to the one name.  How about you?

 

LU:  I don’t think that is is clear to be only one name “Yahweh, our Righteousness.”

I’m trying to work it out in my head.

Philippians 2:9… Therefore God also highly exalted Him, and granted to Him the name above every name…

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Mike:  Do you believe that the Jews thought that Jesus was making himself out to be the Most High God that no man has ever seen?  As if Jesus was literally trying to convince people that he was the very God who dwells in unapproachable light – whom no man can see and live?

 

LU:  It seems to me that the Jews thought that Jesus was making himself…

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The red box is Proclaimer’s ENTIRE “Challenging the Flat Earth” thread that he started in 2011.  It consisted of 6 posts – 3 of which came from him.  The blue box is the Opening Post of my own “Flat Earth?” thread in 2018… which has so far gone on for 4 years, 269 pages, and 5366 posts.

But Proclaimer – without even a word to me – just took i…[Read more]

Gene:  Danny Dabbs……..the flat earth is a “LIE”,  a big LIE brother.  But i think we have all had about enough of it by now.

It’s the earth that God, Jesus, and the entire Bible describes.  But Gene, nobody is forcing you to be a part of this thread or discussion, right?  So if YOU don’t like this topic, then don’t be involved in it.  Simple,…[Read more]

Berean: Hi Danny Dabbs

TELL ME, IF IT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO REALLY KNOW THE SHAPE OF THE EARTH, WHY JESUS DIDN’T GIVE US A LITTLE REMINDER: HEY FRIENDS, REMEMBER, THE EARTH IS….
GLOBE OR FLAT!

You mean like when Jesus said that Satan took to the top of a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world?  Impossible on a ball.…[Read more]

Berean:  I will try to be clearer for everyone in the future, because we must have a sanctified language.

Not at all, dude.  I had just never heard it that way before.  I’ve heard of “splitting hairs” since I was a child, and know exactly what that means.  I just had never heard your version before. 👍🙂

Proclaimer: Look at dabbs… Mike deceived him.

How so?  I merely pointed him to the same webpage that I pointed everyone to at the beginning of this thread… the very same page Dig4Truth pointed me to 5 years ago. The difference is that Danny, D4T and I  actually read it, while the rest of you scoffed it off because “you already know b…[Read more]

Gene:  Proclaimer…….Your arguing against pure stupidity, it’s simply a waste of time. 

Everyone pay heed to Gene here.  He saw the spinning ball on TV, and therefore it’s got to be real! 😎

Berean:  NO WHAT TO MAKE A CONTROVERSY, AND CUT YOUR HAIR IN FOUR… 

That is an interesting saying that I’ve never heard.  What does it mean in your culture?  Give an example if your don’t mind.  👍

Proclaimer: I think Mike has a point.

If you are going to believe in 6 x 24 hour creation days even before man and the sun were created, then you might as well go the whole hog and embrace the four corners of the world, the final hour being 60 minutes, and Jesus coming back with a literal sword coming out of his mouth.

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Proclaimer:  I am not calling Tyson a liar for saying you cannot see the curve at 40km high. But you have to believe that Shatner is lying to us or that he is mistaken. But really, the latter doesn’t seem possible. He either saw it or he didn’t. So you have to hold the view that he is lying to us right? This is not a false accusation. It is simp…

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Mike:  How could you possibly suggest that an eclipse (about 2 minutes of DARKNESS) is in any way related to a request for an extended period of DAYLIGHT?

 

Proclaimer:  Mike, this is something that I am not focussing on right now.

It doesn’t take a lot of focus, Proclaimer.  The Bible passage that describes the event takes about 40 seconds to…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  If true, it opens up the possibility of epochs. Different worlds and ages that have existed on this planet. Maybe washed clean to create anew.

2 Peter 3:5-6… But they deliberately overlook the fact that long ago by God’s word the heavens existed and the earth was formed from water and by water, through which the world of that ti…[Read more]

Mike: Can you see that God named the firmament “HEAVEN” – not “the sky”?  Can you see that the firmament supports waters that are above it?  What exactly are the waters above “the sky” that are being supported by the sky?

Also, if “heaven” already existed in Gen 1:1 like you claim, why would God have to create “heaven” on Day 2?

Proclaime…

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Okay Proclaimer, I made it through to the end of the thread, and nary a word from you about my death-blow rebuttal.  No problem, I’ll just go over the same points one at a time for you…

Proclaimer:  The firmament is the sky Mike.

Let me stop you right there, because you’ve gone off the rails with your very first statement.

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Gene: Mike……..If the earth stoped spinning, the sun would stand still, in fact,  the sun is always standing still. 

Gene, Google “what would happen if the earth stopped spinning” and see what you find.  Then let me know if you still want to use that as your argument.

Doesn’t matter anyway.  The scripture says the sun stood still in the middle…[Read more]

Proclaimer: Think of a random lump of clay. Does it have form? 

Yes.  All physical things have a form. Apparently even God and His spirit sons too, since they have hands and feet and wings and mouths, etc.

Proclaimer:  So the planet existed, but had no form. It seems that it was probably a round rock covered in water. Something that some scie…

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Mike: Proclaimer, gravity is solely an ATTRACTIVE force.  There is no point of equilibrium.  The two stationary bodies in that video would have moved closer and closer together until they collided with each other.  They wouldn’t get to a certain distance away from each other and then stop there because of some “anti-gravity repelling force”.…

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Joshua 6:2-15… Then Yahweh said to Joshua… March around the city once with all the armed men. Do this for six days…  On the seventh day, march around the city seven times…

IS GOD TALKING TO JOSHUA ABOUT SIX LITERAL DAYS FOLLOWED BY A SEVENTH LITERAL DAY?  YES OR NO?

Exodus 20:9-11… Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the sevent…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  It’s hard to see the curvature of the earth from an altitude of 7 miles or 37,000 ft (typical cruising altitude of a jetliner)…  The line of sight from an aircraft at 37,000 feet = 235 miles.

Wait a minute.  The horizon is the point we cannot see beyond because the earth is curving away from us.  That point is 3 miles away for a…[Read more]