Hey Gene, we can’t argue with scripture.  The Bible is chock full of all kinds of gods, and the Most High God of the rest of them who created the rest of them before creating us.  That’s what the scriptures teach, and therefore what I believe.

Good to talk with you again after all this time.  I hope you and yours are doing well and living bl…[Read more]

Ed: Hi Mike,

I believe Nick is referring to…

“For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things…” (1 Cor 8:5-6)

Yeah, and I was pointing out that the phrase “so called gods” isn’t in that verse, or any other ve…[Read more]

Amen Andrew.

Yeah, it’s like that all over the world.  But you can’t just say, “Well, that particular place must be flat”, because you’ll have to make up the curve somewhere else, right?  Anyway, I took some closer photos of the mountain today from a couple miles away.

Superstition Mountain is 4000 feet tall.  At 55 miles (55 x 55 x 8), there should be 20…[Read more]

Nick: Hi Mike,

Don’t get upset so easily.

Surely you knew it would be a hard sell for you here?

We have had queues of snake oil salesmen here and we have to ask the hard questions.

We respect you but test the evidence .

I’m actually expecting it will “sell” just fine, because I know the caliber of intelligent truth-seeking people who are m…[Read more]

miia: I see Mike’s reasoning… that if the Earth was flat, and the stars were designed purely for lighting the flat Earth (as I believe they were anyway – much like a room with lights)… then it would shock many.

We are led to believe the Earth is a ball like all the other planets, in a huge universe where Earth is merely a speck of dust, or even…

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Kathi: I agree with you Anna, it can’t be both flat and round.

What exactly were you agreeing with? 🙂  Anna didn’t actually say anything.  Anyway, it can indeed be both flat and round.  Circles are both flat and round.  And the earth is described as a “circle” in scripture.  I think you meant it cannot be both flat and spherical.

I titled this t…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

So you decry the efforts of scientists while offering unsupported pseudoscientific personal observations?

Still listening.

You mean like the scientists who tell us the universe exploded from nothing, life began accidentally from non-living matter, and eventually evolved into you and I having this discussion?  Do you decry the efforts…[Read more]

Nick, that kind of information can be found for both of my last posts by using a search engine, as both photos are quite famous now in the flat versus round debate.  I’ve forgotten all the details, but I think Nowicki said he was only 10 feet above the lake.  In the second one, the height wasn’t mentioned, but I’ve addressed that.

Here is the world record holder for distance photography.  The peak in the center is 2.7 Km tall, and 392 Km away.  We’re not told the height of the photographer, but if he took the photo from ground level, we’d be talking about 12 Km of curvature that should be hiding the 2.7 Km tall mountain.  And even if he took it from the very top of the mo…[Read more]

And that brings me to my first piece of evidence.  This picture of the Chicago skyline was taken from Michigan… 52 miles away.  According to the ball earther’s own curvature formula (which any of you can look up for yourselves), that amounts to 52 x 52 x 8 inches, for a total of 1800 feet of Chicago that should be hidden by the curvature of t…[Read more]

Mike: First up, have any of you ever personally witnessed any earth curvature with your own eyes whatsoever in your lifetime?

T8:  No. Never. I have accepted the Heliocentric view based on the scientific evidence presented to me. 

Thank you for being the only one to actually answer my question.  The fact is that nobody had ever seen the al…[Read more]

T8:  Hi Mike. To stop quoting quotes that have been quoted by someone else’s quote that another quoted, well that was disabled.

Pierre comes to mind.  🙂

T8: All you need to do now is select the relevant text that which you wish to copy or Add Media if you wish to quote an image and post that. But wrap that text and/or image to be quoted in the…

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Nick:  The devil, man’s stomach, stones and lumps of wood scripturally can all be gods by man’s design but not our God’s.

For us there is one God.

Join the US.

The devil, Jesus, Ashtoreth, Molech, Gabriel, Dagon, Michael, Baal, and many others who were sent by God to help humans in the scriptures – and many others who rebelled against their…[Read more]

Andrew: Mike I much agree with you about the bible acknowledging the existence of other gods especially in the OT; in the NT these are all referred to as demons.

The story of the exodus is about Yahweh defeating the gods of Egypt and Pharaoh’s magicians perform miracles like Moses and Aaron even.

Exodus12:12 For I will pass through the land of…

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Andrew: Yes when Jesus says “verily,verily I say unto you before Abraham was I am” it’s very clear it’s Jesus not the Father saying it. “I say unto you”, if he were speaking as a prophet he would say God says unto you or thus saith the Lord.

That’s a misleading translation.  First of all, we can’t be sure that YHWH even means “I am”.  Secondl…[Read more]

Kathi:  I do not recall Michael or Gabriel being referred to as a god. What scripture specifically tell us that?

I assume they are included in Psalm 8:5, Psalm 82:1, etc.  Why, do you think only certain spirit sons of God are gods, while others are not?  Surely you don’t think that Satan, Ashtoreth, Chemosh, and Milcom – who are all called god…[Read more]

Nick: “Surely you do not imply that any of the created things that scripture calls SO CALLED gods compare with the Father?”

There exists no scripture that contains the phrase “so called gods”.  But no, the gods created by the Most High God cannot compare to He who created them.

T8: “What is the URL to the image? Or how big is it?

I haven’t ever attempted to upload an image that was too big, so I am curious as to what the limit is. And I may be able to increase that.”

It is a 1.27 mb image on my phone.  Your site says “Maximum file size allowed is 512 KB”.  No worries, as I’ve figured out I can just upload my stuff to…[Read more]

T8: “According to the theory, the sun goes under the disk. So it orbits the Earth above and below.”

Not at all.  The sun remains always above the earth as it runs its circuit from “one end of the heavens to the other”.

Gene:  “…why does the day light keep changing back and forth through out the year, north pole for instances goes from almost c…

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