T8:  I know that things can look bigger on the horizon because of the way light is reflected through moisture or something like that.

It’s called atmospheric lensing.  You can see it in the photos I posted yesterday too.  You’ll notice the shot from 55 miles away shows the mountain magnified as compared to the one I took from a couple miles away.

Hey T8, I put Mt Ruapehu and Paekakariki Hill into Google World.  It shows 127 miles distance, but looks like it is all over land, whereas your photo looks to be over sea.  Do you have the locations right?  Just double checking.

Gene:  …flat earth therioies always disallows any existance of the true photos, from NASHA, ORBITING SATALITES OR FROM SPACE MISSIONS, WHICH SHOWS CLEARLY THE EARTH IS A SPHERE LIKE ALL OTHER PLANETS.

Which of these NASA images conveys the real ball earth, Gene?

I personally like the 2012 one, where North America put on a lot of weight.  :…[Read more]

Ed:  At approx 20 mi distance at 30 feet height you can see 2/3 of the Sears Tower.

Run the numbers on that

117 feet hidden by curvature.  I don’t think you’re going to set any records with that one. 🙂

T8: For me, there is a huge range of evidence for the heliocentric model.

Which piece of evidence can you personally verify?  Just list one.

Nick: But seriously, someone from NZ should arrange tours to the Great Wall of Antarctica.

But if you can believe this it would be easier to believe in Mormonism and Preexistence.

There is no dispute that the wall exists.  It’s just that some of us believe the wall encircles the entire perimeter of the AE/United Nations map instead of circling a…

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So my own video that I just happened to shoot because I woke up for work and saw something cool in the sky proves  – beyond any doubt – that eclipses are not caused by the earth’s shadow on the moon.  But it gets worse.  In the heliocentric model, you can’t see a full moon in the daytime, because the sun is supposedly 93 million miles farther aw…[Read more]

T8: First off, the shadow is at the top of the moon because sunlight is peeping over the horizon and lighting up the bottom of the moon but not high enough or angled enough to light the top of the moon because the Earth is casting its shadow on that part.

Here’s a 1 minute video from the same guy who shot that upside down shadow, showing how what…[Read more]

Gene: You also seem to think 53 miles away from something on a 24,000 mile curvature means you could see with the human eye a curve, i don’t think so. Even in that 53 mile experiment, if you were to fix a telescope at perfect level position you would not see the the buildings foundation point as you would at say a mile away.

Here is a ex…

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While I’m waiting for Kathi to tell me if “Jehovah the Son” is an angel (Hosea 12:4) and Gene to tell me if his Lord Jesus is a false god since Jehovah called him “O God” (Hebrews 1:8), I’ll post another scripture that proves my point.

Genesis 3

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as…

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I am excited to get home from work and put your info into Google World to verify the distance. Can you verify the camera height?

T8, were you seriously only 248 meters high when you took that photo? Because if so, this is big.

T8:

Here is the view I got looking at the same side of the mountain, but some 305 km (190 mi) away at Paekakariki Hill. The island is out of the picture to the left.

The mountain is 2,797 metres (9176 ft) high.

So you take 190 miles squared (190 x 190=36,100).  Multiply that by 8 inches (36,100 x 8=288,800 inches that should be hidden).  T…[Read more]

Hey Mike, I got an upload error when posting the photo above as T8. I looked into it knowing you had the same error and saw a file upload limit of 512 KB. I changed it to 8000 kb. You should be able to upload that gif file now. If it is still too large, I will increase the file upload limit again.

Fantastic!  Now I don’t have to keep resizing my photos!

Hey Gene and T8, I’ll try my best to get to yours tomorrow.  I already warned you that it might take a few days for me to respond, because I don’t have the time I used to.  And may I also suggest that the shape of the earth is a HUGE topic, and includes side topics like gravity, plasma, electric universe theory, vibration, r…[Read more]

miia: Hey Mike, I was just thinking. If it was a flat Earth, wouldn’t it come to an end?

If we go north, south, east or west by foot, boat or plane we are going to end up at the end of the flat earth right? But nobody has ever hit that dead end. Instead, we end up at where we began.

Hey miia, thank you not only for the very logical question, bu…[Read more]

Nick: You have not yet replied to the question about the firmament (or expanse) being the sky.

But God placed the two great lights in the firmament in which the birds also fly.

So it can only be called the sky from the viewpoint of earth.

The firmament is strong, like molten glass.  It is a physical barrier that separates the waters above it (…[Read more]

Gene and Kathi, I will address one scripture from each of you, and then ask you to address my scripture.

Kathi:  Is 43:10…

NET Bible
You are my witnesses,” says the LORD, “my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may consider and believe in me, and understand that I am he. No god was formed before me, and none will outlive me.”

And if you re…[Read more]

It tells us that everyone observes a flat Earth, whether or not it is. That was my first point, Nick… We’re told we live on a spinning ball, but we all observe a flat stationary plane.

How did you and I first come to believe that our observations were wrong, and that we really live on a spinning ball? We were told. Simple as that. We were…[Read more]

Nick, I goofed. Superstition Mountain is 5000 feet, not 4000.