Nick:  You have not explained what is scripturally meant by pillars.

When the prophet Samuel says, “For the pillars of the earth are Jehovah’s, and he has set the world upon them”, is there any reason for me to assume something other than the normal definition of pillar?  If so, what is that reason?

Nick:  Neither does scripture teach that the earth is flat.

Nick, does scripture say God set the earth on pillars?  A simply yes or no will suffice, but I already know to expect some snarky condescending comment or another question instead of an answer.

Hey, who’s going to answer my question?  I see that Nick, T8, Gene, Kathi, and Anthony have all posted since I asked it.  It was concerning the very first claim made by T8’s video and Anthony’s article… both of which are going to debunk the flat earth.  The first claim is that intelligent people have known for over 2000 years that the earth is…[Read more]

Gene, who told you those things?  Surely a straightforward reading of Genesis won’t lead anyone to billions of years, protector planets, a big bang, or a sun, moon and stars existing before the earth.  So where did you learn them?

Nick:  Scripture must be understood spiritually and using scriptural witnesses.

Do you have any witnesses to your confident assertion?

Yes.  God, Moses, and Jesus.

God Himself equated our working six days and resting on the seventh to Him creating the heavens, the earth, the sea, and all that is in them in six days, and resting (literally “c…[Read more]

Nick:  You said the FIRMAMENT had a consistency alike to molten glass did you not?

Job said that, not me.

Nick:  How does that fit with your definition?

Just fine…

Nick:  How does the definition of the PILLARS of the earth fit with scripture?

Like this…

My turn…  Can measuring shadows in two places on earth determine its shape?

Absolutely, Nick.  The sun wasn’t created until day 4.  The earth on day 1.

Nick:  Still waiting for a definition of firmament, pillars…

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Nick:  Hi Dig4,

The earth was formless and void.

But you ascribe a form to it?

Your comments crack me up, Nick.  😀  Don’t you also ascribe a form to it?  Or do you think it is still formless and void?

Nick:  Hi Mike,

No joining in your pity party from me.

I can only hope you make a full recovery and that then we can discuss what is important.

Proverbs 18:13

He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

Need I say more?

T8:  As for NZ not existing, I’m use to that. I’m old enough to remember when we didn’t basically exist from the rest of the worlds perspective. 

I was talking about this new trend…

Anthony and Gene, no need to apologize, but accepted nonetheless.  This is hard for a lot of people, including me and D4T.  It’s not like we watched a video and decided on a whim that we would enjoy being called flattard, wack job, idiot, stupid and ridiculous.  We don’t enjoy people laughing us off like we’re crazy, or rolling their eyes at us wh…[Read more]

Okay, here are the very first words from the article Anthony linked…

A few months ago I released an experiment video explaining how Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth using the shadow of sticks. The method was performed almost two millenia ago, and produced quite accurate results (considering the ‘equipment’ used). But it wa…

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T8:  I will see your video and raise you another, Mike.

This one has satisfying answers in it to some of the questions you have asked here.

Fantastic!  Shall we go through your video point by point… or through Anthony’s written version?  I imagine the written version would be easier, as I can copy and paste each claim, and then address it.…[Read more]

D4T:  Yes, but God cannot lie. He has told us certain things about the earth, sun, moon and stars that contradict what the “science” of today is trying to tell us. No one is arguing that God knows more than us and that He has revealed this knowledge to us in a way that we can understand. But if He says the earth was created before the sun then…

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T8:  It isn’t hard t understand that everything on Earth is attracted to the centre of the Earth while a big object like the moon passing close would cause a disturbance or tug a bit harder than when it is further away.

Wouldn’t that same tug continually pull the moon ever closer, while also disturbing the orbit of the earth around the sun?  If n…[Read more]

D4T:  But t8, mathematics says that a sphere with a circumference of our earth would curve at 8″ per mile squared.

Yes it certainly does.  Gene and T8 have questioned this well established formula that every scientist and mathematician in the world accepts – just like they all accept 3.14 as the value of pi.  Gene is standing firm with his own m…[Read more]

Mike:  Are they suggesting that a flower doesn’t actually exist unless someone happens to be looking at it?

T8:  When you are not observing protons or electrons, they are waves. When you observe, they are particles or real pixels. 

How do we test that claim scientifically?

miia and D4T, I’ve been reading all your posts, and loving them.  I just haven’t had the time to respond.  But keep them coming.

T8, I’ll see your top 10 video, and raise you a much better one that makes minced meat out of yours…

As for the one point you brought up, nobody has EVER observed something behind a curved object being brought back over the object via refraction, atmospheric lensing, or any other mechanism.  And just so you know,…[Read more]