D4T:  I’m sure most here have heard of *Wernher von Braun who was a German SS (Nazis) that developed the V2 rocket. And most probably know that at his death he had Psalm 19:1 referenced on his grave marker. This is interesting because Psalm 19:1 mentions the heavens declaring the glory of God and the firmament! Let’s take a look.

 

Psalm 19:1 

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Nick: Hi Mike,

Scripture offers several possible spiritual meanings for the tree of life and the pillars.

But you are stuck in literalism and you have built your dogma around this unspiritual approach.

Can you really not see how arrogant and condescending your comments are?  If I understand the tree of life in the Garden of Eden to have been a r…[Read more]

 T8:  Thanks for the video on those Christian astronauts. Interesting thing is, you never really hear about Christian Evolutionists, although knowing how crazy this world is there are probably a few.

Seriously?  You haven’t heard of Theistic Evolution?  Or BioLogos?  There are millions of self-professed Christians that think God used the big bang…[Read more]

T8:  Also, in ancient times, did they believe sun is a rotating 32 miles sphere located about 3000 miles above the surface of the earth?

They believed the sun, the moon, and the stars were lights in a very close firmament… not millions of miles away.

T8:  I do not know anyone personally that has performed this and neither do I know of anyone in the world who has done this.

So in 2000 years, a third shadow has been the only thing needed to prove beyond a doubt that our world is curved, and yet the general public knows of no such famous experiment done by any scientist?  There are no te…[Read more]

Kathi:  Mike,

you said:

I didn’t call Sagan a liar

Yet you said this:

“I just pieced together a 1 minute video that shows Sagan lying, and Tyson telling the truth…”

That is correct.  Perhaps T8 will explain the difference between calling someone out for telling a lie, and calling them a liar… as he’s done numerous times on this site.

Kathi:  Mike,

Do you realize that Neil deGrasse Tyson is a globe guy?

I realize that Tyson is an actor who gets paid a lot of money to publicly propagate the idea that we live on a spinning ball hurtling through space at millions of miles per hour in all conceivable directions at once.  Do I realize that he personally believes the stuff he is pa…[Read more]

Kathi:

I just saw this…unbelievable response from Mike regarding the Christian astronaut that lives on the space station for months at a time and said the earth is round.

Mike’s partial post:

miia:  Hey LU, I saw that video of the Christian who went to space, but quickly discounted it because anyone can claim to be a Christian (you must have…

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T8:  What are the heavens that God created in the beginning if it doesn’t include stars? Anyone?

Some think the plural hassamayim is like the plural elohim – which can refer to one thing, or more than one.  It’s called a plural of intensity, and it’s use in the Hebrew language is well documented.  So it’s possible that the word so often trans…[Read more]

D4T:  “Heliocentric” refers to the sun. The sun wasn’t even created until day 4. How then can anything created on day 1 refer to the sun? And here is my burning question; where does it mention earth’s rotation? Spin, spinning, rotate, rotating, turn, turning, around and around, anything?

I wasn’t able to find any of those words, D.   But I did…[Read more]

D4T:  The Word says the sun was created on day 4. <- (that’s a period)

which part of “day 4” do you have a presupposed aversion to?

And where did this aversion come from, since it clearly didn’t come from scripture?  That’s the question I keep asking, but have yet to receive an answer.  Let me start it out…
Yes, the Bible clearly says the s…[Read more]

Ed:  Both of these ideas mentioned in day 4 refer BACK to the Earth’s rotation
as it correlates to the Heliocentric model of our solar-system as mentioned in day 1.

Please address this point.

 

Nick:  The creation of light and darkness in Gen 1.3 does not need a created sun.

You do not need the Sun to have light.

God is light and in Him there…

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D4T:  Ed, I don’t see how something said to be made on day 4 could be made on day 1. That would be a clear contradiction.

I believe we must let Scripture speak for itself. If it says the sun was made on day 4 then that must mean what it says.

Amen.  The sun, moon and all the stars on day four.  The earth on day one.

Gene:  Mike…..show me in the Gen 1-2 where there list any dates or times, only it says in the Beginning.

…there was evening and there was morning, one day.

…there was evening and there was morning, a second day.

…there was evening and there was morning, a third day.

And so on. But if there is any question as to the timing of Genesis 1,…[Read more]

T8: Hey Mike, I found a competing photo to my one, so mine is not so special after all. I feel sad now.

Yours is way better… especially for my purposes.  I will be using it in a video soon.

T8:  …isn’t the point that the third well proves the sphere earth and thus Sagan was right about the sphere earth?

If a third well could prove a sphere (it can’t), then why in 2000 years has nobody done it?

Kathi:  t8, I get that. I have a problem with Mike calling Sagan a liar. Neil doesn’t call him a liar. Sagan was actually on to the truth and could have used a third well to satisfy the theory. Neil goes on to satisfy the theory of a spherical earth anyway through the rest of the video.

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Nick, here’s one of the scriptures highlighted in my last post…

Ezekiel 1
22And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above. 23And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other…:
26And above the firmament that…

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Mike:  Nick, does scripture say God set the earth on pillars?  A simply yes or no will suffice, but I already know to expect some snarky condescending comment or another question instead of an answer.

 

Nick:  Your definition of firmament included the floor of the earth.

but your picture only showed a glassy roof?

What gives?

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Nick: LU has shown a possible spiritual meaning for pillars

and we know light and darkness have spiritual meanings so perhaps so has firmament?

No doubt there are countless spiritual meanings behind much that is said in the scriptures.  But take the tree of life, for instance.  Is there any valid reason to think it wasn’t a real tree in the Ga…[Read more]