Nick:  Hi Mike,

Was Jesus of Nazareth a man, conceived in and born of Mary?

Ed:  Yes Nick,

But the spirit of Christ came from eternity to be born in Bethlehem. (Micah 5:2)

Micah 5:2 says the origin of the one who would come from Bethlehem was “from ancient times, days of old”… not “from eternity”.  So it is Jesus himself whose origin was from…[Read more]

T8:  Not my theory at all. I believe 7 stages which could have been 7 minutes or 7 million years. It doesn’t give us the exact unit.

Sure it does.  Scripture tells us the unit of time was “day”.  The Hebrew word “yom” means exactly what our English word “day” means, T8.  I can say, “Back in the day of Abraham Lincoln”, and I’d be talking about…[Read more]

D4T:  Since neither could account for the evolution of the earth in a naturalistic way then why don’t we take God at His word?  We can call it one week or 7 days with the sun being made on day 4.

Amen.  And even if scientism could make it work in 7000 years or 7 days, let’s still just take God at His word.  🙂

T8: “6 distinct stages; A beginning and ending of each period; Sun appeared in the firmament in the 4th stage…”

D4T:  Your word is “stage” the biblical word is day.

You claim the sun “appeared” on the 4th ” stage”, however the Bible says the sun was “made” on day 4.

You just can’t say it any clearer than that, D.  And the saddest part is tha…[Read more]

Nick: Hi Mike,

So you have found one literal use of the word DAY.

And that gives you the right to make it’s use ALWAYS LITERAL.

Nick, can you offer my one valid scriptural reason to not accept the creation days as literal 24 hour days with an evening and a morning?

While you’re working on it, see if you can answer what T8 could not…

Exodus 20…

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Kathi:  Here is an opposing view where the aliens are demons…

It’s not an opposing view, but right in line with how I think the deception will unfold.  Here’s what I have in my mind…

1.  Demons masquerade as aliens from a distant galaxy.
2.  They help mankind by offering us hidden knowledge about weaponry and cures for diseases.
3. They gain…

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Mike:  T8, how many days did God command for us to work before taking one day off? And more importantly, what was the reason that Jehovah Himself gave for this commandment?

T8:  The Earth has reflections or images of heaven. We are God’s image. Eden and the rivers were like Paradise and the river of life. That river of life is spirit, but all phy…

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I’ll be back tomorrow or Saturday to catch up.  In the meantime, I finally took the time to create my top-down eclipse video, and I hope you’ll all check it out.  It’s 6 minutes long.  I look forward to your explanations…

Btw, the I took the title shot myself.  I overexposed the moon last week to show that we…[Read more]

T8:  I imagine the atmosphere is included in the rotation of the Earth, thus everything is moving in sync bulge or not, so do not see an issue with it myself. And the altitude of the sea is sea level, whether it is on the bulge or not makes no difference to the atmosphere as it starts from there up.

Well, as long as you don’t see an issue with a 2…[Read more]

T8:  Common sense should tell you that 24 hour day without the sun has problems. It is more likely that either the sun appeared in the firmament and was part of the heavens or a day is not necessarily 24 hours long.

Genesis 1…

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament…

15 and let them be lights in the firmament to give light…[Read more]

Kathi, these are just an alternate view of the 33 versus 70 degree angle I showed in the last post…

That’s a lot of angle on that second one, huh?  And remember that he would have had to aim even higher to get the earth where it shows in that wet flag image… because where my equipment is pointing would barely capture the…[Read more]

Kathi:  Can you admit that the earth would not be directly overhead to the Apollo landing site?

Of course.  When I said the earth would be directly above anyone on the moon, I was speaking about the middle of the side of the moon that faces us.  You have discovered that Apollo 17 landed 20 degrees off center, so I’ll have to change 90 degrees to…[Read more]

T8:  I loved the Truman Show too and it did remind me a lot about the deception of the world…

So you caught that it was a deception, and that the entire world was involved in it?  Good.  Now think on those words I told you… “We accept the version of the world with which we are presented”… even if that version is an entire worldwide dec…[Read more]

D4T:  The language of the creation days makes it clear that normal days are in view. So to interpret the days as anything other than normal days would be forcing a particular meaning.

T8:  …prove to me that the first day without the sun was 24 hours with a morning and evening. 

Exodus 20

8 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.<…[Read more]

Okay, this first one is looking down on the moon.  You can see the red arrow pointing straight “up” at the earth from the center of the side of the moon that faces the earth all the time.  I’ve also circled the Apollo 17 guy in blue…

This one is the same overview, but I laid out what I think would be a good range of view if the Apollo 17 g…[Read more]

Kathi:  Mike,

I enjoyed your effort towards this quest you have us on here. I hope you had fun, however, you should have relaxed because you really didn’t have a good experiment.

I think it will work out okay.

Kathi: I don’t have a problem with the placement of the earth in that image. I would have a problem with it if the earth was indeed direct…

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T8:  …like that object that fell to the ground in the Truman Show.

Interesting you brought that show up.  When asked why Truman doesn’t discover the truth behind his fake world, the directer of the Truman Show says, “We accept the version of our world with which we are presented.”   Truer words have never been spoken.  And just so you know, Holl…[Read more]

T8:  What / Why question answered

Descriptions in scripture often use symbols and they are written from our perspective.

Who is the arbiter of which ones are symbols, and which ones relate to reality?  Who decides when God is telling a fib just so we understand it from our perspective, and when He is telling it like it truly is?

I wasn’t as…[Read more]

Nick: Hi Mike,

“According to the flesh”

Yes well the flesh is from both parents.

Adam?  Eve?  Jesus?  I assume the children of Abraham that God can make from stones would be flesh human beings – with no biological parents.

Nick:  Hi Mike,

Humans have two parents.

Do you agree?

In most cases.  Adam didn’t.  Neither did Eve.  And Jesus had only one biological parent.

Matthew 3:9

And do not think you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham.