Amen, Kathi.  🙂

T8:  Okay, I’m just going to rattle off what I know, so my explanation might be a little rusty.

I appreciate the honest response.

T8:  For the Earth being a globe, a number of observations and calculations early on…

Which specific observation or calculation proved beyond any shadow of doubt that the earth was a globe?

T8:  …followed by actua…

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Mike:  Do you know the difference between “assume” and “determine”?  YES or NO?

T8:  Honestly, no. I would have to google that. Off the cuff, I think ‘assume’ is a logical guess and ‘determine’ is trying to find out something.

I just Googled it for you…

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Mike:  …we are in agreement that 8 inches per mile squared is the correct calculation – up to 1000 miles. That is a big step in the right direction.

T8:  At this stage, I assume it is correct up to a point.

Very good.

Kathi:  Really Mike, I have to stop this. I have some other interests to attend to presently.

God bless you richly!

No problem.  As you can see from the timestamps, I was creating that last response while you were posting that you didn’t want to continue on with the discussion.  I’m glad that at least now you have a tiny idea of what you’re up…[Read more]

Kathi:  Mike,

Maybe a neighbor, family member, or co-worker can loan you a globe on a stand that shows the tilt. I do think it will help you.

As I see it, I’m not the one in need of help here.  🙂  But I found an eclipse animation that I think we both can get behind.  Give me some time to chop it up and present it.  In the meantime, you can do a…[Read more]

Kathi: I think the way I said it was unclear, so I’ll give you that. The light rays from the sun are indirectly in the penumbra, not direct rays. The atmosphere causes the direct rays from the sun to bend and scatter. The sun is not directly lighting up the eclipse. The indirect light from the sun is in the penumbra and indirectly casting light on…

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T8: Hi guys.

Does the guy in this video have a point?

His claim that 8 inches per mile squared is only accurate to a point is accurate.  It’s good up to about 1000 miles.  Other than that, he is very much mistaken in his math, as is attested by any mathematics expert you can find on the internet.  The vast majority are globers, but all of them ag…[Read more]

T8: Does this help you grasp how big the Earth is and why we do not naturally see the curve?

Further, while I do not for one minute believe the Earth is flat, it is obvious God has given us a flat earth experience.

Uh… maybe God has given us a flat earth, not a “flat earth experience”. 😉

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T8:  I have never said that earth curve calculators are wrong. I assume they are correct as they weren’t setup by Flat Earthers, so they would have no reason to fudge the numbers due to a lack of agenda…

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Gene:  Mike…. There is tons of proof the earth is round. It’s hard for me to believe you haven’t seen this yet or have you?

Hi Gene, when you bring up some proof that you can personally verify, we’ll have something to discuss.  Until then, I’m going to focus my attention on the three members (D4T, Kathi, T8) here who are actually making an attem…[Read more]

T8: Reminded me a bit of the Mt Ruapehu photo supposedly proving the Flat Earth.

Me too.  It is yet another example of us seeing an object that should be hidden behind curvature if the earth was a ball.  Thanks for sharing.

Kathi:  Mike,

Here is the pic #11 from your ABC 15 site at 5:30 am. It looks like the timeanddate.com picture at 5:30 am.

Yes, timeanddate.com has indeed illustrated what we in North America observed.  The question isn’t whether someone can make a graphic showing the event, but how the event could happen in the first place.

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Nick:  …at least you have found a platform to stand on and berate others.

My intent was to educate and open a serious discussion whereby I and others could learn.  If I have berated anyone, I apologize.

T8:  …longer flights are considerably greater in number now and so not hard to accept many more high altitude planes are flying… That explains it perfectly.  … We don’t need to resort to conspiracy theories for this one.

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.  The point isn’t the number of planes.  The point is that since the 80…[Read more]

D4T:  Here’s another that lays it out in front of your eyes. One would have to be a loon to deny the facts of this.

http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title15/chapter9A&edition=prelim

From your link…

No person may engage, or attempt to engage, in any weather modification activity in the United States unless he submits to the Sec…

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Kathi:  I looked at your newspaper site. The pictures near the bottom are of several different years…

I didn’t know that, but were you able to see enough of them from the 1-31-18 eclipse to understand the point?

Kathi: …the compilation pictures aren’t identified as to time or order.

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Gene:  Nike, produce one ortopsy report that says anyone has died of aluminum oxide posining.

Produce one that says anyone has died from smoking a cigarette, breathing in asbestos, or from AIDS for that matter.  People die from complications brought on by these things.  But just so you know…

Aluminium is neurotoxic. Its free ion, Al3+(aq), is h…

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D4T:  A better question is why would you think that it is not a literal description? You must have something to base that assumption on. 

He’s basing it on the helical model of the universe that godless men have indoctrinated all of us into.  Otherwise, he’d read “pillars” in a context that is anything but metaphorical, and he’d understand tha…[Read more]

Nick:  Hi Mike,

So you say rich people are trying to kill us.

To what end?

Without all their slaves how would they keep accumulating assets?

I didn’t say any such thing.  In fact, I went out of my way to tell Gene that I DIDN’T know the reason they were spraying the skies with chemtrails.  Some think they’re spraying nanobots, and the upc…[Read more]