T8:  See Mike. If we are patient, each FE argument will be debunked…

Yes, the old “jpeg compression” argument again.  It might interest you to know that when Rob Skiba first increased the levels on that earth (and other NASA official images), he did it during a LIVE stream.  You can still find it online, and watch his computer AS he goes to the…[Read more]

T8:  So eclipses are caused by objects unknown or the moon creating the effect on its own and that is a good enough explanation to debunk the idea that the Solar System model can explain it all perfectly and visually. That sounds like scientism to me Mike. I would find it hard to ignore the fact that the SS model works like clockwork and v…

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T8:  The Flat Earth produces eclipses how? And the curved shadow on the moon, what is that?

Solid questions.  Let me begin my answer by asking you how you know the darkened part of the moon during a so-called eclipse is a “shadow” of something else at all, let alone that the “shadow” is caused by the earth.  Some ancient cultures believed in a dar…[Read more]

T8:  And many things like this that supposedly puts the globe earth to bed, is actually worse for the Flat Earth. Eclipses being one of them.

Please tell us why eclipses are “worse for the Flat Earth”… especially in light of the impossibility of a selenelion eclipse in the globe model.

T8:  I just watched this and thought I would pot it here as it debunks points you made earlier in this topic.

Which points?  And how exactly were they debunked in the video?

T8:  So it was absurd and the solution was to not only double down on absurd, but to double down the double down x 1 million, that is throw out all the evidence we have for the globe earth because we sometimes see things that do not ordinarily happen.

The solution for me was to investigate further, to see if there were any other similarly absurd e…[Read more]

T8:  As for Ruapehu, My honest opinion on that is a portion of the mountain in the shot is behind the curve…  I can’t think of any other reason at this stage to explain it. But let me be clear, I am happy with refraction…

Another brilliant response!  We both agree that refraction/distortion is a real thing.  But this is what I was just talkin…[Read more]

T8:  Hey Mike, this stuff is way harder than I thought. It seems hard to find info on these questions, I guess because people do not really look into things like this. I’ve read a whole lotta stuff and one comment I saw said the moon travels the other way. Only saw it once and when I google it, nothing comes up. Who knows at this stage. I will kee…

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T8, I’m waiting on your mathematical review so we can put the Ruapehu thing to rest.  And speaking of mountains people have photographed from 123 miles away, check this baby out…

Probably just refraction again.  🙂

I don’t know if I’m right on this solar eclipse shadow, but for me it all comes down to this…  If a shadow passes over you from your right to your left, then the thing that caused the shadow must have also passed over you from your right to your left.  So the way I see it, if the moon’s shadow goes west to east across the earth, then the moon i…[Read more]

T8:  I call BS on that Mike.

You haven’t addressed the math I posted at all.

T8, your math post amounted to this:  “So the moon is going in it’s orbit twice as fast as the Earth spins on it’s axis.”

And this was me addressing the math:

“You couldn’t have possibly watched the entire video.  If you did, you’d know this:

1. Yes, the official scie…

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D4T: Oh boy, talk about not listening. T8, you’re not listening which is important unless you just want to post the same thing over and over and over.

I’m sorry but I’m not as patient as Mike. You’ll have to just walk away thinking you’ve made a valid point without even understanding the counter point to your position. Now go and celebrate.…

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T8:  Mike, here is my post with the math.

https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/128/#post-839443

You haven’t answered it. 

I addressed it on the very next page.  In posts 2, 6, 9, 11, 14, 15, 19 and 20 of that page.  Almost half of that entire page was filled with posts from me addressing your math post.  And that’s what pisses…[Read more]

T8:  Here is the curve…  And we didn’t have to go to space.

You’ve got too many things on your plate right now for me to deal with that faked Lake Pontchartrain photo right now.  Just know that the way it was faked is known, and other people have gone to the same location and did the photo normally to show there isn’t any such curve.  In fact,…[Read more]

Mike:  Now in that photo above, there should be a mile or more of bulge in the middle of that sea.  If the sun can’t reflect on the observer’s side of little waves and ripples, how do you suppose it will reflect on the observer’s side of a mile high bulge?

T8:  Ripples and waves in the far distance would be too small to see, but light can reflect…

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T8:  Years later, it was another discrepancy in a planet’s orbit that showed Newton’s theory to be inaccurate. By the end of the 19th century, it was known that the orbit of Mercury could not be accounted for entirely under Newtonian gravity, and all searches for another perturbing body (such as a planet orbiting the Sun even closer than Mercu…

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T8:  Not so. The fact is we can use The Theory of Gravity to make predictions and it is still used today. It wasn’t perfect, but Einstein completed the theory.

See how we’re all learning things we’d never thought of before – but just took for granted?  We’ve learned that Newton’s idea of gravity isn’t correct after all, and that Einstein had to “…[Read more]

D4T:  T8, which is your favorite verse that teaches a globe?

 

Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

 

Lastly, your math is useless if you have never seen the moon travel from we…

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T8:  So the moon is going in it’s orbit twice as fast as the Earth spins on it’s axis. 

If I don’t hear back on this one, I will chalk it up for a win for Team Globe Earth. If that is irritating, then show me the error.

You’ve already heard back on it.  Why not copy and paste the answer I gave all that time ago right after you posted the math…[Read more]

D4T:  Wow! Mike, that IR video of the moon was awesome!

Thanks man.  I did one the next day and left it running long after the moon was out of view to the naked eye.  I finally turned the IR camera off because I couldn’t see it in the viewfinder.  When I loaded the video into my computer, it was there the entire time!  And I just happened to have…[Read more]