T8, did God stop the movement of the sun and the moon… or the earth?

What is the SCRIPTURAL answer?

And is that also YOUR answer?

DeGrasse Tyson, Wikipedia, and every serious Bible scholar in the world – Christian or secular – knows that the Bible is a flat earth book that teaches of a firmament in which are the sun, moon and stars. These honest scholars also realize that people like you are forced to twist the scriptures in ridiculous ways to force fit the scientism…[Read more]

Didn’t you find it telling that even an atheist like NDT recognizes how people like you have to twist the scriptures to fit the scientism view of the world into the scriptures? The “scientists” see what you do and praise you for being so enlightened for forsaking the scriptures in favor of their ridiculous worldview. I only wonder why YOU can’t…[Read more]

Btw, many thousands have come TO the Creator through the Biblical earth movement. You and your high priests of scientism are the stumbling blocks.

You just keep following your high priest from that video – the one who says that stars can’t fall to the earth, and says faith and reason can’t be reconciled – and we’ll follow OUR High Priest, who says stars WILL fall to the earth, and that faith the size of a mustard seed can move a mountain.

D4T, it appears as if T8 is one of those educated Christians (at the 2:17 mark) who prefer praise from men to praise from the one who actually made this world and described it to us in his written word.

T8, pay close attention to what your high priest says at the beginning of his speech. He’s talking about you as one of those who use…[Read more]

T8:  I will watch it, but NZers go there every year. Includes scientists, politicians, even tourists.

One person is the dad of one of my  friends. He claims to have been to the South Pole. He is a scientist.

Which of them can verify it is a continent?  Which of them is allowed free access to the entire land mass to explore as they wish – like wi…[Read more]

T8:  <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Maybe the Earth is flat, but there is too much evidence against this.</span>

But which of that evidence can you and I go out and verify for ourselves?  I’ve been saying this for a long time, but ALL of the “evidence” of a spinning ball comes down to a mathematical concept, and pictures from space that a) are v…[Read more]

Here’s a 3 minute vid about NZ and Antarctica I just watched today.  Check out how this new frontier was described by Encyclopedia Americana before the 1958 “no one can go there” treaty…

No, water does not swirl in different directions based on which side of the equator you are.

T8: That video proves nothing.

Moisture refracts light so what. I really don’t care. It doesn’t disprove the globe earth and heliocentric model. It only proves you are not seeing the full picture.

It disproves your “sun and moon lift up a half a degree” refraction claim.

T8:  In reality the sun is many times bigger than the Earth …

“In reali…[Read more]

T8, we don’t really care if you or Gene accept the reality of the Biblical earth that God set on pillars and a foundation so that it can’t be moved.  We don’t really care if you want to twist your way out of what the Hebrew word translated as “firmament” really means – or ignore that it separates waters above from waters below to this day, and…[Read more]

Then look for one, T8.  I’m not doing your homework for you.  I will give you a hint that I’ve already posted one very early on this thread.

Here’s my latest – only 5 minutes – and made so clearly that even T8 can understand how his model is falsified by actual observational science…

Btw, you see it every time you see a boat disappear on the horizon. You just mistakenly and hilariously think the boat’s going over curvy water. 🙄

Yeah, I wanted to see that too when I started investigating the shape of the earth. And then I did see it. I wonder what you’re doing differently than I did. Hmm…

You know the ceiling lights aren’t actually getting closer to the ground in the distance, right? You know clouds are actually getting closer to the ground in the distance, right? Come on… you can figure out the rest, right?

It’s actually proven, testable and repeatable science. And yes, the man would disappear from the bottom up until we could only see half of him. There are dozens of examples on YouTube already. Of course, you could do it yourself too.

Ed:  No explanation = wrong model

Surely you can’t be serious… can you?  Here’s a list of 10 things physics can’t explain… https://www.newscientist.com/round-up/physics-questions/

Does an inability to explain these things mean our entire model of physics and how they work is wrong?  Or better yet… does the fact that YOU can’t personally ex…[Read more]

Hi Ed, when you first start investigating the true nature of the world God created for us, it doesn’t take long to discover centuries of lies upon lies that have been passed from generation to generation.  It is a tangled web, and takes considerable effort and research to untangle just one strand.  Fortunately, there are thousands of us out t…[Read more]

Refraction is a real phenomenon.  It doesn’t, however, lift hidden objects up and around the obstruction that is hiding them.  I’ve corrected you like this a dozen times already.  Will you really continue to purposely lie about me, saying I have some problem with the observationally proven effect of refraction?  I have never flip-flopped about it.…[Read more]