Hey Nick,You were right my friend. Adam is not called perfect anywhere in the Scriptures. But I'm glad you corrected me on it. First because I needed to know I was speaking falsehoods. But second, because it just proves how people can learn something from an early age that stays with them their entire life-even if it's not true. Like the…[Read more]

Hi Kathi and all,   Kathi, you keep referring to Thomas calling Jesus “my God”.  And we always see reference to Hebrews 1:8, where he is called God by God.  But is that it?  After reading the entire Bible verse for verse, that's what it comes down to for you?First of all, that Jesus would be called God was foretold by God in Isaiah 700 years bef…[Read more]

My knowledge of evolution is far inferior to the people I've been reading in this thread.  But from my ignorance I have to ask this about evolution: Why?If it all started in a primordial soup that lightning somehow ignited, creating life out of elements, why would those original, ancient one-celled organisms change?Without any intelligence, even…[Read more]

Hi Kathi, Hope you are well.If we could truly rely on Spirit to guide our lives, why do we need the Word of God?  Throw it away and do whatever you think the Spirit is telling you to do.”All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness…” (2 Timothy 3:16)Do you remember we were warned…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 13 2010,09:32)Nick,I think we are at an impass because you insist on a clear teaching from Jesus' own words that we can worship the Son of God.  If it is not there then you will not worship the Son of God as the Son.  I believe that Jesus isn't going to tell us to worship Himself and leaves that to the Spirit to quicken o…[Read more]

Hey Nick,Let me look into it and get back to you next weekend. I'll be away from the computer all week. I know he was created without defect or disease and could have lived forever had he not sinned. But I thought somewhere Paul called him a “perfect man”. Maybe I'm wrong.

To WJ and TT,In this business analogy of God's kingdom, you have to remember this isn't Sanford and Son.  The business always has and always will belong only to the father.  When the father put the son in charge, it was made clear to the employees that the father still signs the paychecks.  It is the fathers money alone.  The son has been del…[Read more]

Quote  Double whammy! When the father turns over the family business to his son giving him ALL administrative powers it becomes a moot point as to how the son acquired those powers or who is the greater. The only relevant fact to the employees of that business is that the son has become THE BOSS!TT, your logic is flawed.  If the father owns the b…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 07 2010,18:05)Mike,I think that the price to restore fellowship between the Father and mankind was paid for by the greatest and most perfect the Father had to give since He couldn't send Himself, He sent His Son…who was willing.  Obviously His Son became what was necessary to accomplish the task and that is what is…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 07 2010,11:52)Quote (mikeboll @ Feb. 06 2010,15:45)Hi Kathi, I very much enjoy your approach to “debating” the deity of Jesus.  You are not condescending or rude or arrogant.First, that passage in Proverbs talks not only of wisdom, but of understanding and prudence.  If you are going to physically embody wisdom in Christ, w…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 07 2010,15:46)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 07 2010,10:27)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 04 2010,09:20)Jesus cannot be “OUR Lord” without being God.thinkerHi Thinker,Why do you constantly ignore PROOF I give to you?My last Post <–Click Here!Ed Jhttp://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEDF J,You are ignoring the facts. Isaiah said, “Make straight…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 07 2010,09:10)Quote (mikeboll @ Feb. 06 2010,16:50)Kind of like God told us, “I'm putting my son in charge for a while, treat him exactly as you would treat me if I were there.”Mike”Kind of like God to us”? HMMM! I do not see any scriptures that says Jesus is “Kinda like God”, but in fact the Father himself calls him…[Read more]

Hi WJ, Jesus is the one who says the Father is greater.  Jesus is the one who says he can't do anything on his own, only what the Father wills.  Are you saying the very words of Jesus are our disclaimers?  They are actually Jesus' disclaimers.  He was saying, “Even though to your mere mortal eyes and minds it seems as if I am a god because of the…[Read more]

Quote (glad tidings @ Feb. 07 2010,07:34)Hi Kathi,May I exhort you to consider the following truths from the scriptures. 1.  God cannot die (the scriptures say that He is immortal),  but Jesus was dead three days and three nights.2.  God has foreknowledge; Jesus only knew things (future) to the extent that His Father revealed to him.  Jesus doe…[Read more]

Hi Kathi, I very much enjoy your approach to “debating” the deity of Jesus.  You are not condescending or rude or arrogant.First, that passage in Proverbs talks not only of wisdom, but of understanding and prudence.  If you are going to physically embody wisdom in Christ, who embodies understanding?  And who embodies prudence, who is said to dw…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 07 2010,03:42)Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 07 2010,01:03)bat became Rightfully mine').This gives the impression of one who would use the term “'Take' my reward” rather than “'Receive' my reward”.The kingdom and 'all authority' over that kingdom is not permanent. Jesus hands it 'all' back to God after he has accomplished the…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,You make very good points, but: 1. All life and creation came FROM God, THROUGH Jesus. Jesus couldn't (and never claimed to) do anything on his own. In fact he states the opposite.2. Jesus had authority FROM GOD to forgive sins on earth.3. Where does it say Jesus is FROM everlasting?4. Although Jesus is quoted saying he will send…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 01 2010,14:27)Quote (mikeboll @ Jan. 31 2010,00:35)I agree, Gene.  Let's keep it simple.  As I understand it, the Trinity Doctrine states that there is one Godhead.  This Godhead is one being shared by three co-eternal, co-equal persons:Father, Son and Holy Spirit.  They are all God, but each plays different rol…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 01 2010,14:27)Quote (mikeboll @ Jan. 31 2010,00:35)I agree, Gene.  Let's keep it simple.  As I understand it, the Trinity Doctrine states that there is one Godhead.  This Godhead is one being shared by three co-eternal, co-equal persons:Father, Son and Holy Spirit.  They are all God, but each plays different rol…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 01 2010,08:48)Quote (mikeboll @ Jan. 31 2010,00:46)Hi KathiI'm getting lost I think because of your wording.  You call the Son “our God”, but for us, there is only one God, the Father.  I don't disagree that Jesus is a god in that he is a supernatural being and an integral part of our salvation, but to say Jesus is our G…[Read more]