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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 21 2010,07:29)MikeNo! I don't agree. For the word “proskyneō” was a word used by the Jews for worship to the Father!Jesus himself used the word “proskyneō” in describing “True Worship” to the Father in John chapter 4!The Apostles that were under the direction of the Holy Spirit penned examples where they worshipped…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 21 2010,07:41)hi allplease do not stumble on this,as true christians we only have to worship the father,no one else not even Christ.Hi terra,So simple, yet so true!peace and lovemike

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    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 21 2010,06:15)GeneSo, then, which spirit will go to heaven when they die, man's or animals?GeorgHi Georg and Gene,In my humble understanding, spirit is not intellect. Spirit is the “life force” that flows through us. It is a steady flow from God through all living things, then back to God. If He withheld it, we would…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 21 2010,06:30)MikeNow give us an example of what you are saying in the NT scriptures that prove the worship to the Father and Jesus is different!Blessings WJHi Wj,The only example I can give is the inferred one that you also, as an intelligent person should arrive at:None of the people recorded as worshipping Jesus…[Read more]

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    Thanks, Gene!I'm confused by your wording, though. Don't you believe the Word was Jesus?

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    Hi t8,You shouldn't speak so abusively about Stu's God. :D Just kidding, Stu. :p peace and love,mike

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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 20 2010,20:59)t8 said that the words worship and honor are the same word. t8 is correct and he gave WJ a wide opening when he admitted it.Hi Thinker, So “honor your mother and father” really means “worship your mother and father”?Peace and love, mike

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    Hi Kathi,  To answer the Scriptures you bumped me the other day, I have this:Quote wor·ship (wûrshp)n.1. a. The reverent love and devotion accorded a deity, an idol, or a sacred object.b. The ceremonies, prayers, or other religious forms by which this love is expressed.2. Ardent devotion; adoration.3. often Worship Chiefly British Used as a fo…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 21 2010,03:20)I think it is funny how you guys avoid the points we make like show me how the word “Worship” in scripture has a different meaning for the Father and Jesus.Hey Keith,I think the same thing about you, tt and ca.Every time I show you what you ask, you act like you skipped right over my post and start…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 20 2010,21:09)It does not say that the  Lamb receives less power does it?Revelation 5:13 testifies that both the Lamb and the Father receive power!Think man think!Hey Thinker, You ignored my post in your testator topic.  So I'll throw it in your face again.Quote Hi tt,Paul was saying Jesus remembered us in his will, l…[Read more]

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    Hi Stu,Let me restate that I am not an expert in evolution.  And I don't claim to know the ways of God.  How could I?  That being said, let me try to answer your questions.Quote You have not hurt me personally, but I think when creationists lie to children about natural history for dogmatic religious reasons, and Catholic priests tell little ch…[Read more]

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    And stop quoting pages and pages of Catholic writers. Try to use your own words and thoughts, please.

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    Ca,I'm still waiting for a reply to the call no man father post I sent. It seems that you like to start a topic, then when you run out of defenses, you run and start another one.You did it with the father topicand with the worshipping Mary topicstand and defend yourself or admit defeat :) Peace and lovemike

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    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 20 2010,13:46)God's Word IS Sacred Tradition. The Scriptures are Sacred Tradition.It is not contradictory.So I am not troubled by this problem.But you cannot substantiate what books even belong IN the Bible. So you have no right to appeal to it's authority. You can't even prove it's authority. We can.Ca, Can you…[Read more]

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    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 19 2010,17:57)Ca,Where then, do you came across the info that dead people are in heaven and can hear you and pray for you, if not from the Word of God? Sacred Written Tradition (Scripture) and Sacred Oral TraditionCa,If God's Holy Word says one thing, and oral tradition says another, which one are you going to believe?

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 20 2010,10:41)MikeWhy do you see this dialogue as stomping you?That is not my purpose!My purpose is to speak and defend the truth.I am trying very hard with the Lords help and love to not Patronize, accuse and condemn as the manner of some are on this sight!Blessings WJWj, I said stumping not stomping.  As in I…[Read more]

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    MikeNo trick question!God is a Spirit: and they that **worship (proskyneō)** him must  **worship (proskyneō)** him in spirit and in truth. John 4:24 And they **worshipped (proskyneō)** him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy: Luke 24:52And he said, Lord, I believe. And he **worshipped (proskyneō)** him. John 9:38And as they went to tell his…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 19 2010,16:05)mikeboll64Quote If ill on your current life is what it takes for you to receive everlasting life, it's a small price to pay.  Sorry if that statement hurt you, though.The last thing in the world I could possibly want is ‘everlasting life’.  What a truly horrendous thing to wish for.  Thank goodness it doesn’…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 20 2010,06:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 18 2010,22:10)Hey Wj,I am consistent with the word worship, and I know that while giving praise, honor and glory are a part of worship, they are not in and of themselves necessarily worship.MikeAre you consistent?Then why don't you worship Jesus like Jesus said to worship the…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 19 2010,10:11)MikeWell why are you not consistent with the use of the word then, for Jesus was!God is a Spirit: and they that worship (proskyneō) him must worship (proskyneō) him in spirit and in truth. John 4:24 And they worshipped (proskyneō) him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy: Luke 24:52And he said,…[Read more]

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