Hi Kathi,Q and A time Quote How do you show that love to Jesus nowadays if you do not have a relationship with Him?  Like this:  Dear Heavenly Father Jehovah, ….and thank you for the sacrifice of your only son, whom I love…..I pray this to you through you son, Jesus Christ, without whom I would be nothing.   Amen   And other variations, of…[Read more]

Hi Stu,Quote Can you name the writer who saw Jesus and wrote about the experience?Matthew, John, and Peter.  And, for the third time, how do live by higher standards?Quote Quote  Then why are you so certain we were not created?  I am not certain at all.Then why do you insist that it couldn't have happened as the Bible says it did?Quote Quote  G…[Read more]

Hi WJ, Sorry about my comment about you not responding.  I overlooked it until I saw your post yesterday.You said:Quote They knew who he was and understood his claims of equality with the Father and that the Term “Son of God” meant Divinity! Agreed, Jesus is divine.  But how do you think they knew he was equal with God?  It certainly wasn't fr…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,You've posted 16 and 17 over and over. What about 18?Quote 18This is why even the first covenant was not put into effect without blood.To follow what you're saying, God would have had to die for the first covenant to go into effect. Did He?

Hi Thinker, 1.  Your post that I responded to says “Jesus is the sum total of our salvation.”  I asked you who Jehovah is to you, then.  No answer on that.You say:  Quote What is it you think that Jude 25 proves? It simply says that glory and majesty and dominion and power belong to God our Savior. Verse 4 also says that Jesus Christ is our Sav…[Read more]

Thanks all for your help,I'm going to try to wrap my mind around it and pray for understanding because it has eluded me still.peace and love,mike

Hi CA,  Wow, that was a lot of words to say:Quote wor·ship   /ˈwɜrʃɪp/  Show Spelled  Show IPA noun, verb,-shiped, -ship·ing or (especially British) -shipped, -ship·ping. –noun1.reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred.2.formal or ceremonious rendering of such honor and homage: They attende…[Read more]

Hi CA,I agree with Georg about people calling younger ones child, son, sonny, little missy, etc.  Just a figure of speech.  As for Paul saying “I became your father through the gospel”, I think he was correcting the congregation as a father would his children.  He didn't tell them to call him father.  He didn't say, “Father is my new title in the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 22 2010,12:19)a BODY + SPIRIT in it equals a SOUL. and Genesis backs this up also.Hi Gene, Nick and Terra,This one confuses me because in Genesis it sure sounds like body+spirit=soul.But if man is a living soul, why would Jesus say “fear Him who, after killing the body, can pitch the soul in Gehenna”.  This makes it…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 21 2010,20:58)Blyth believed that natural selection only removes bad mutations in order to maintain species unchanged, whereas Darwin explained how as well as natural selection removing the bad ones, advantageous mutations would also be retained and increase in frequency.Blyth was wrong, and Darwin was right.Hi Stu, Wouldn't it…[Read more]

Hi Stu,Quote You don’t know what Jesus taught.  You only think you do.I have first hand accounts to go by.  Again, how is it you live by higher standards? And for the record, I'm not a judge of anyone, you're the one who spouted off about your standards.Quote I have never seen any christian accept that ‘humbly’!  It is generally done with pride in…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 22 2010,08:10)Exactly! Jesus is “all things.” He is High Priest and the Sacrifice. He is the Lion and the Lamb. He is God and Man. He is the Testator and the Mediator.Jesus is the sum total of our salvation!thinkerHi Thinker,Who is Jehovah to you, then?I keep telling you Trinitarians: If a Scripture is confusing you, all…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 22 2010,06:42)Hi Mike,I think that you have not grasped that I worship the Son 'as the Son' and not 'as the Father.Hi Kathi,Wow!  That's a lot of questions! Quote You say that you worship Jesus in the sense that you greatly love and admire Him.First of all, I will never again say that I worship Jesus because of the…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 22 2010,05:45)However, there is resistance there and it is a funny thing because the more resistance there is the more it encourages me to search and study the Scriptures and refine my understanding.Hi JA,That's why I love this site.  I'm learning daily and getting faster at remembering certain Scriptures.  Peter s…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 22 2010,04:02)Did the disciples knowingly, then, decide to 'worship' another man? No, what they did was 'Obeisence' which carries similar outward actions to 'Worship' but without the spiritual sacrificial element and thus was agreeable as a 'greeting' to one of high Honor, or for the act of Glorification.Hi JA,You hit the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2010,10:06)Mike,My point is that wrestling with words does not in and of itself bring truth.  I think that we already knew that the word for worship had different meanings.  So, sorry, no light bulb.Hi Kathi, I, for one never knew there was more than one definition of worship.  In fact, I never even bothered to look it…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 21 2010,13:02)In conclusion, NO I DO NOT THINK THE WORD WAS JESUS, I THINK JESUS SPOKE GOD THE FATHERS WORDS TO US, AS GOD REVEALED THEM TO HIM. While Jesus represented GOD the father to us and gave the fathers WORDS, that again in no way makes him the WORD He spoke, because those words were (NOT HIS) as HE SAID,…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2010,11:36)Hi MikeBoll64,TT didn't even bother to read my two Posts to him on the same thread: First PAGE located at bottom of the page…Forum  » BELIEVERS PLACE » Scripture & Biblical Doctrine » God is the testator, jesus is the testatorHi Ed,I think they read them, but have no logical answer.  So they just scroll arou…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2010,08:30)2 Peter 1:1-22 PETER Growth in Christian Virtue 1 Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ: 2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 21 2010,08:13)Hi AllJesus said that “Men should honour him “even as” they honour the Father”. John 5:23To make the claim that men should honour him “EVEN AS” they honour God would be blasphemous to the Hebrew!Hi Wj,”Animals have brains even as humans do.”  “even as” does not mean identical.  And honor does not mean w…[Read more]