Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 01 2010,14:53)Here is some NET Bible comments on the issue:Quote  tn Or “the beginning of God’s creation”; or “the ruler of God’s creation.” From a linguistic standpoint all three meanings for ἀρχή (arch) are possible. The term is well attested in both LXX (Gen 40:13, 21; 41:13) and intertestamental Jewish literature (…[Read more]

Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 01 2010,14:43)DNA is a code/language, all codes that we know have an origin or are designed, therefore DNA is designed.Hi Princess,Thank you for the tip, I will sure check it out.I was watching a show on Discovery about dinosaurs tonight, and I had to laugh when the guy was saying how this certain dino was…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 01 2010,11:59)He became deity from His onset.  Much like a child becomes human from their onset.  God the Father was God before anything at all was created, right?  The Most High God didn't need to do anything to be God.  Likewise, the Most High God's only begotten Son didn't have to do anything to be deity.  Just bein…[Read more]

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Hi Thinker,Why did you not quote my last sentence?  I'll say it again.If it is clear that Jesus isn't over the Father because it was the Father who put him over all things, then wouldn't it follow that the one who has the power to put the other one where he wishes is the greater of the two?Have a good night.  Contrary to what you might think, I a…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 28 2010,11:26)John begins his book with a “God” with “God” concept and near the end John quotes Thomas as saying “My Lord and my God.”Hi again Kathi,And even closer to the end of John he says:Quote 30Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31But these are…[Read more]

Hi thinker,Let's not start off what could be a great relationship by mincing words. Do you or do you not believe that the Son is equal to the Father.P.S. I didn't know what you background was, I only was telling you mine.peace and love,mike

Hi All,It is frustrating to me when I ask a question to TT or WJ, and by the time I get back online there are many new pages in that topic and everyone's thoughts get blended together.  That has the undesired effect of giving TT and WJ the option to only answer the questions they choose.  All I want is truth.  I am not a Bible scholar.  My the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 26 2010,21:09)Mike,It was the Messenger of Jehovah who revealed Himself to Moses in the burning bush.Hi Thinker,So Jesus was the messanger? Angel means messanger. Was Jesus an angel?peace and lovemike

Thinker, Correction on my placement of #2. It should have been one sentence earlier.mike

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 28 2010,04:49)Mike,1.Jesus is seated at the right hand of God NOW. The book of Revelation has been fulfilled. 2.The opening statements say that the things which John saw would “SHORTLY” take place. Uh….it's been over two thousand years now.Any way, Georg said that Christ is “over all” and that Paul blesses God for this.…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 28 2010,07:40)Thinker……….The greatest gift GOD gave Me is LIFE, and Jesus gave His life for the payment of My sin i have committed in this life.  And even that was a gift of GOD. “GOD (THE FATHER) SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT (HE) GOD THE FATHER, GAVE HIS UNIQUELY BEGOTTEN SON” …..> Jesus was God the Fathers gift to…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 27 2010,08:47)Georg said:Quote Father “GAVE” immortality to the son, no one else but the Father had immortality before, and Jesus does not rule as God, in fact, he does not rule at all yet. He will be very shortly though Oh my Lord! Lay not this sin to Georg's charge!thinkerHi Thinker, Georg has it right on both counts.…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 27 2010,05:56)NHThat is a lie. God doesn't say any are God, but only speaks of them as false gods like men that shall die. Pss 82:6, 7YHWH says there is no other Gods and that you are not to even mention the name of other so-called gods.Yet he as well as the Apostles call Jesus God and says his throne is forever and…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 27 2010,05:50)JackReally. Notice the little “g” for god of this world.Satan truly is a god of this worldly system. But Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords!Blessings WJHi WJ,Capitalizing the “g” in “god of this age” wouldn't make Satan the Almighty any more that capitalizing it when Jesus is referred to as a…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 27 2010,05:26)never said “same as” Father God. I have always said “equal with” Father God.Christ is OVER ALL (Rom.9:5)The Father is OVER ALL (Eph. 4:6)This means “equal with” as I said in my opening post. You want to put words into my mouth.Do the math Nick.Hi Thinker,What about, “the Father is greater”?What about…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 27 2010,07:06)Only God gets Glory for his works!Hi WJ,Why do you assume that when Jesus receives glory it is God's glory? Is God the only One who has glory in the Bible?peace and love,mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 27 2010,04:33)Jesus sits in the throne of God ruling as God because he has ALL Authority and Power and posseses ALL things and by him all things consist.Hi WJ,Can you tell me the verse that says Jesus “sits” in the throne of God?peace and love,mike

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2010,12:42)Hi MB,The 144,000 are mentioned twice in Revelation as being from the Jews. They are not spoken of in terms of rulership. Reigning with Christ is mentioned in several places incl 2 Tim2 and Rev 20 and more detail is given in Lk 19.12f and there is no mention of the number being 144,000 in this context. The…[Read more]