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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 11 2010,03:31)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 10 2010,11:20)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2010,09:58)Hi WJ, Indeed Jesus perfectly showed God in nature and power. God was in himBut God Himself could not love the way Jesus did. The greatest love is to lay down one's own life for another which you say God cannot do. Ergo,…[Read more]

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    Hi Thinker,You said:Quote In the “form” of a servant Jesus possessed all the attributes of humanity. In the “form” of God He possessed all the attributes of divinity.I quoted this:Quote Psalm 95:3 For Jehovah is the great God,      the great King above all gods. Jesus could not have been equal to Jehovah or this Scripture is a lie.  Unless you…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 14 2010,05:11)Because GOD allows us liberty to exercise those captivated wills in no way means we (HAVE A “FREE” WILL IN US) that is a completely different subject. IMOHi Gene,Isn't “liberty” a synonym for “free will”?

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 14 2010,03:32)all things operate from spirit in it, and our will are caused by those influences of spirits in us. Nothing “FREE” about it , because we are given freedom to exercise those spirit influenced wills, does not means we ourselves are “FREE” from those influences.The term “FREE” WILL is an OXYMORON. No such…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 11 2010,14:14)mike64if man have the spirit of God as you say then all man have it even the wicket ones.Hi T,That is correct – even the wicked have the Spirit of God as their life force IMO.I think that what Jeremiah is saying is not that we don't have free will, but that without God's Spirit nothing that is alive could…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 11 2010,13:42)Hi MB, That is only opinion and unsubstantiated by scripture. If we always had the Holy Spirit of life we would all live forever.There is no suggestion God shared His spirit with Adam or his descendants or any natural living thing.Hi Nick,You call my “understanding” of Scripture an “opinion that is…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2010,08:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 11 2010,13:05)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2010,13:48)Hi Mike,Are you saying you don't have the “HolySpirit” in you?Ed JHi Ed,I'm saying that the Holy Spirit is of the Father, not the Father.The Word is Jesus Christ before he was known as Jesus Christ.peace and love,mikeHi Mike,That's what the…[Read more]

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    Hi Thinker,(I'm glad you make time for your daughter, I spend every weekend with my 8 year old boy)Not so much bravo this time. :(   We're circling again.  I will try a different approach, maybe we'll get somewhere.  I will number our points of disagreement.You said:Quote You keep dodging the fact that the expression “form of a servant” is the an…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 11 2010,01:47)do you understand the way God and Christ are in us ??Hi T,No, not exactly.  But my understanding is that man's spirit is the Holy Spirit in small measure.  I think the spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit in a larger measure.  I think God's Spirit flows in and out of Him and in and out of all living things.  I…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2010,13:48)Hi Mike,Are you saying you don't have the “HolySpirit” in you?Ed JHi Ed,I'm saying that the Holy Spirit is of the Father, not the Father.The Word is Jesus Christ before he was known as Jesus Christ.peace and love,mike

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    Hi Thinker,Bravo again!  We are slowly completing the circling and getting down to the heart of some of our disagreements.  I believe that “in the heart” is where we will find truth.You said:Quote Just as each person who shares in man's “form” possesses man's essential attributes and nature, so each person who shares in God's “form” possesses G…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2010,14:46)M64what is that flesh in side people what type of bouchery is this???sinse wen is God become flesh and in us ?new very new ,what the scriptures and the bible translation 2050 ?Hi T,I'm not sure what you're saying.  I don't think the Father becomes flesh inside us.  That's Ed's belief.  Do you agree with hi…[Read more]

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    Quote (glad tidings @ Mar. 10 2010,11:14)Hello Mike,You make some good points.  Perhaps you'd be interested in perusing this website for some additional material in your studies of monotheism:www.christianmonotheism.com    There's a good debate between Sean Finnegan and Brant Wasserman on this site.Hi GT,Thanks, I will.peace and love,mike

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    Hi Thinker,Let me say bravo!  This is the kind of debate I was hoping for – one based on Scripture.  You've done well at defending your beliefs.You said:Quote Let's get something straight, “Who took the form of a servant” does not anywhere say that Jesus was a servant. Can you see the problem with your reasoning? If “form of God” does not mean t…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 08 2010,15:23)Hi Kathi,You said:Quote Now about the blind man who worshiped…once again, the Jews did try to stone Jesus in that story.Not for the worship thing. Don't try to mislead. Besides, that just enhances my point. They were looking so hard to find a reason to kill Jesus, and here was a man worshipping him right…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2010,14:42)Hi Mike,1) Yes, after I adjusted it; check the wording difference.     He becomes flesh in us as well! (Romans 12:1-2 / Eph.4:23-24 / Col.3:10)2) Jesus Prayed to his father, who was inside of him.     We pray to God in the same way, certain he hears us!God blessEd J http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed,Quote 1There…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:28)But you cannot, and yet hypocritically you accuse me of not being able to explain it when you cannot either.Hi Stu,I guess I was just a clanging bell.  But I got what I wanted out of you.  Simply, you cannot explain the crap you post on this site.  I only need one explanation: God.Peace, love and prayers,mike

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2010,10:40)Jesus said he finished the work God gave him to do BEFORE the cross, why is that?Hi B,I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't count being crucified as “work” he had to do. Maybe he was meaning he finished all that God had required of him before his death. Like I said, Jesus still has work to do.peace and…[Read more]

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    Hi Thinker,Let's get something straight.  “Who, being in the form of God” doesn't anywhere say “Jesus was God.” You said:Quote It most certainly does say that Jesus was God:I think your statement would have been more accurate if you said, “I understand it to mean that Jesus was God.”  Now I could probably go to non-trinity wells of information a…[Read more]

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    Ed said:Quote Hi Mike,1) I said the HolySpirit is Jesus' Father.     Why are you saying Jesus is the HolySpirit?     Are you your father?2) Since the “HolySpirit” is the “ONE GOD”,     that's why rejecting him is unforgivable.3) Your now embellishing on something I didn't even say?God blessEd J Hi Ed,I'm sorry.  When I first posted my two cents…[Read more]

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