Hi Thinker, You said this:Quote But you still did not specifically answer his statement, “TODAY I have begotten you.” PLEASE ANSWER!And this:Quote If you fail again to specifically answer the words “TODAY I have begotten You” like I have asked several times, then you lose this point by default and we will move on to the next point of your…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,The statement Paul (not Peter) made in Acts 13:33 stems from the second Pslam, like he says.  Psalm 2 says:Quote 4 The One enthroned in heaven laughs;       the Lord scoffs at them.    5 Then he rebukes them in his anger       and terrifies them in his wrath, saying,    6 “I have installed my King         on Zion, my holy hill.”  …[Read more]

Hi Thinker,I already like this point by point better.John 3:16-17 says:Quote 16″For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.”This is Jesus talking – do you see…[Read more]

POINTS OF DISCUSSION1.  SITTING AT RIGHT HAND MEANS EQUALITY  2.  GOD IS A PLURAL GOD3.  TESTATOR MUST DIE4.  CAN JESUS BE THE MEDIATOR AND GOD ALMIGHTY?5.  SCRIPTURES THAT SAY JESUS IS GOD ALMIGHTY OR EQUAL6.  MEANING OF FIRSTBORN7.  MEANING OF BEGOTTEN8.  MEANING OF “OF ALL CREATION”9.  JESUS IS NAMED JEHOVAH10.  I AM11.  WHEN WAS JESUS BEGOT…[Read more]

Hi Thinker, May God bless you, brother! You had my sides splitting with this one. Especially the three steps ahead!Jack, these posts are getting longer and longer. I want to shorten them. I will number the disagreements we are now discussing on my next post. Then we can debate only three in a post until the list is complete. As new…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,Man, I think this (although frustrating at times) is one of the most mentally entertaining things I've ever done. The NWT translates the name of the savior of Israel in Jeremiah 23:6 as:“Jehovah Is Our Righteousness.” Heb., Yehwah′ Tsidh‧qe′nu.The translators only have Jehovah/Righteousness to go on.  But let's use your tran…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 15 2010,04:10)We have Liberty to exercise our WILL to a point , but in the end ONLY (ONE WILL), WILL BE DONE and that is GOD'S Will and when that takes place God will be All and in All.Hi Gene,We have liberty to exercise our will, not only to a point, but to the point of everlasting destruction.  God's will was to have…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 14 2010,14:04)Our WILL must be put to death as Jesus' Will was, and ONLY GODS WILL is TO be done, But before that can happen GOD Must remove our WILL and replace it with HIS WILL. We need to say as Jesus said not my will bit they will be done.Hi Gene,Trust me, I am thinking.   I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just…[Read more]

Hi Gene,WJ is right, we got off topic there.You said:Quote Mikeboll………..> No i gave them (LIBERTY) to exercise their WILLS that are in them,Gene, I'm reading the words, but it still looks like you're saying, “I gave them LIBERTY (freedom) to execise their wills.”Sounds like free wills to me.peace and love,mike

Hi WJ,I think the truth is in the Scriptures – plain for all to see. So save the opinions for when we debate, okay? In the mean time answer the Stephen question. P.S. How did I misunderstand Jack's point – he said it very plainly.peace and love,mike

Hi WJ,I think the truth is in the Scriptures – plain for all to see. So save the opinions for when we debate, okay? In the mean time answer the Stephen question. P.S. How did I misunderstand Jack's point – he said it very plainly.peace and love,mike

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2010,09:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2010,08:56)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2010,06:02)Animals have spirits too -do you say the same about them?Hi Nick,Absolutely.  Even if you break it down into spirit of life, spirit of love, spirit of joy, spirit of Christ, spirit of man, spirit of animals, etc., it has as it's…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 14 2010,09:02)Where have I or Jack ever said…Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 13 2010,15:49) The love of Jesus SURPASSED God's love?Hi WJ,Are you kidding?  Where Jack said it is in the post I sent you.  Along with your approving comments.And you must not be reading the same debate I am, brother.  I am slowly getting Ja…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 14 2010,09:02)Where have I or Jack ever said…Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 13 2010,15:49) The love of Jesus SURPASSED God's love?Hi WJ,Are you kidding?  Where Jack said it is in the post I sent you.  Along with your approving comments.And you must not be reading the same debate I am, brother.  I am slowly getting Ja…[Read more]

Hi WJ,  You said:Quote For 36 years I have studied and heard all the arguments against the Trinity and I am yet to find a valid argument that disproves the “oneness” that the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit share!I'll ask you what I've been asking thethinker:  Why was Stephen able to see Jesus but only the glory of God?  And why wasn't the Ho…[Read more]

Hi WJ,  You said:Quote For 36 years I have studied and heard all the arguments against the Trinity and I am yet to find a valid argument that disproves the “oneness” that the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit share!I'll ask you what I've been asking thethinker:  Why was Stephen able to see Jesus but only the glory of God?  And why wasn't the Ho…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2010,08:23)GB, Fullness of God's Spirit? We were not given any part of the Spirit of God.God is the FATHER OF SPIRITS but HIS SPIRIT IS ONEHi Nick,Let me turn the tables on your standard remarks:Nice opinion, but do you have Scripture to back that remark up?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 14 2010,05:52)Mikeboll………NO it is NOT, we have LIBERTY in this nation to do what we desire as long as it is not against our laws. If i say to my grand sons you can do what ever you WILL to do inside the back yard , they can, because i have given them (liberty) to, but as to what they (WILL) to do is a whole…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2010,06:02)Animals have spirits too -do you say the same about them?Hi Nick,Absolutely. Even if you break it down into spirit of life, spirit of love, spirit of joy, spirit of Christ, spirit of man, spirit of animals, etc., it has as it's source God.peace and love,mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 11 2010,03:31)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 10 2010,11:20)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2010,09:58)Hi WJ, Indeed Jesus perfectly showed God in nature and power. God was in himBut God Himself could not love the way Jesus did. The greatest love is to lay down one's own life for another which you say God cannot do. Ergo,…[Read more]