Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,12:27)One more thought, Kathi:You say it never says to worship God “ONLY”, but Jesus quotes Deut in saying:Quote Matthew 4:10 NIV Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.' “Sounds clear to me.Hi Mike,No, I…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 28 2010,04:04)MikeDid you also get that from Watchtower?The problem with what you are saying is none of those names were given by an Angel during a miraculous birth.The Angel said they shall call his name “Emmanuel” which is being interpreted “God with us”.Like I said Jesus is “God with us”!Hi WJ,Must you start all…[Read more]

One more thought, Kathi:You say it never says to worship God “ONLY”, but Jesus quotes Deut in saying:Quote Matthew 4:10 NIV Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.' “Sounds clear to me.

Hi Kathi,I haven't followed this “arm of God” thinking of yours thoroughly.  I will say that by the statements you make like…Quote Again, we see the One with the “outstretched arm” receiving worship:And:Quote It was obviously acceptable for the God with the outstretched arm of the OT to receive worship.…it doesn't look like you're showing…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2010,06:28)The interpretation is “God with us”. I do not hear anti-trinitarians say Jesus is “God with us” or Emmanuel!Hi WJ,You act as if Jesus (Jehovah is Salvation) is the only one who had names that referrenced qualities of God.  Emmanuel is also correctly translated, “God is with us”.  But it doesn't mean J…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 27 2010,06:21)Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 27 2010,05:59)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 27 2010,05:29)Marty said to WJ:Quote Of course, he is not just any man but the Son of the living God, but you said it and the scriptures confirm it, he is a man.Marty,You speak as if God and man are totally other. Don't forget that man…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,You said:Quote The ONLY reason you deny the apostolic interpretation of prophecy is because it does not fit your Arian beliefs.I choose to believe that Jesus was begotten by God in the beginning as the firstborn of all of God's creations.  There is no Scripture I'm aware of (including the ones you brought up) that says different.  But <…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,I thank God for you.  Not just for giving me a reason to delve even deeper into Scripture, but because I haven't read one of your posts without laughing out loud. You said:Quote Mike,So you know better than trinitarian and even the NWT translators?Let's get down to the heart of the matter.  The ONLY reason it is so important to you when…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 25 2010,07:43)WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll64:Quote Why do you defend the NWT that was translated by a bunch of no names that could not read a single Hebrew or Greek sentence?Keith,The NWT translators proved themselves to be “no names” because their translation teaches an “incoherent polythiesm” (Wikipedia). Mikeboll…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 25 2010,07:28)WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll64:Quote Why do you defend the NWT that was translated by a bunch of no names that could not read a single Hebrew or Greek sentence? “A bunch of no names.” thinkerHi Thinker,Yes, ha ha, no names.  Sometimes I think you must be 10 years old. Like that's what the NWT…[Read more]

Hi WJ,First, you say that Jesus is God.  Then you say they can't word things the same way.  It's a silly argument anyway – it can't be God talking because of the way it's worded.Second, no matter what you believe, God is coming to dwell among us in New Jerusalem.  That's what the Scriptures say, my friend.Third, you challenged me to list at…[Read more]

Hi Thinker, This is all new to me and I don't have the strength right now to read up on it.  Let's delay this one for now, please.I will say though, on the surface it sounds like although they believed in pre-existence, they didn't consider someone begotten until he appeared in the physical world.  In other words, until he was born.  Jesus ap…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,Are you converting back towards you Trinitarians beliefs? Do you now think Jesus and God are equally God Almighty?peace and love,mike

Hi Thinker,.How long will we circle about the same points?  We are busy at work now, and I'm doing 12 hour days.  I don't have time to answer to a 4000 word post each night.  Here's where I am right now:I agree that Romans 1:3 sounds like it supports what you're saying.  I don't have an answer for it right now. But……When Paul quotes 2 Sam…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,Long time, no talk.You should just be glad you're saying that here and now, not in front of the Pharisees. peace and love,mike

Hi Thinker,Just thought I'd leave you with a few Scriptures.Romans 8:3Quote 3For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering.Jesus was God's Son before he sent him in the likeness of man.Galatians 4:4Quote 4But when the time had…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,I don't get it. Are you saying the Greeks thought that people existed in some other form before they were born?peace and love,mike

Hi again,You quoted:Quote 6And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Hebrews 1:5-6Why did you use a different translation after making a point to tell me it actually says:Quote 6 But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all Go…[Read more]

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Hi Thinker, About David: God didn't call him His firstborn son. If God said that leviathon was appointed the firstborn among sea creatures, would you assume it meant son? If He said the eagle was appointed the firstborn among winged creatures, would you assume it meant son? David was appointed the firstborn of God's kings on the earth, not His…[Read more]