Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 31 2010,06:46)Mike,Jesus Himself said that His reward is with Him.Revelation 22:12: “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.verse 20:20 He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming quickly.” Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus!The One who said “I co…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 31 2010,06:10)Mike,The word “seen” is used often for seeing with the comprehension. It means, “No man has comprehended God at any time. The only Son, who is at the Father's side, He has explained Him.” Note that the Son makes God “seen” by EXPLANATION. Therefore, the seeing is with the comprehension.Hi Thinker,Again with…[Read more]

May God bless you, Thinker!  This is the nicest post you have ever sent.  No real slams or ridicules.  Thanks for that – It finally feels like I'm conversing with an adult.You said:Quote Your admission that you cannot scripturally prove that Jesus was begotten before creation is very significant. We have already been over texts like John 3:16. Th…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,I put in 12 hours today, so I'm going back to the KISS theory.  This is getting too long and too crazy.The point of discussion you picked for us to start on was “When was Jesus begotten?”  While I think it was from his very creation, I cannot Scripturally prove it.  But I can Scripturally prove it was before he was raised from the de…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 29 2010,13:16)Nick,God loved His Son and the Son loved God, His Father.  Two beings each with a body, soul and spirit…both capable of love.Except one of Kathi's gods is a severed arm and the other is a one armed person Like in the fugitive.Kathi, I don't mean to ridicule, but this is more far out than the “worship…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 29 2010,11:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2010,19:01)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 29 2010,06:08)Where did Jehovah ever say that you can worship me but not my outstretched arm?Hi Kathi,Correction on the “by” accepted.  I should have used “from” God, not “by” God.As far as your question above, a better question is when did God,…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 29 2010,06:08)Where did Jehovah ever say that you can worship me but not my outstretched arm?Hi Kathi,Correction on the “by” accepted.  I should have used “from” God, not “by” God.As far as your question above, a better question is when did God, Jesus or anybody else for that matter say “TO” worship His arm as a separate…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Mar. 29 2010,04:50)Hi Mike,Would you believe I had the same quotes as you ready for this.Additional:The 'River of the Water of Life' is God's Holy Spirit.Hi JA,Not only would I believe THAT, but I also believe that WJ already has a Trinitarian Scholar sponsored answer to change the meaning of the Scriptures I quoted.  I'm…[Read more]

And WJ,Isaiah 40 also has Jehovah asking:Quote 25 “To whom will you compare me? Or “Enough said?peace and love,mike

Quote (torcha @ Mar. 19 2010,05:32)10 And concerning the Holy Sprit, when Stephen had a view of heaven and saw the Father and Jesus at his right side where was the Holy Sprit?Hi torcha,And why was Stephen able to see Jesus but only the glory of God?  I have been asking, but so far, no Trinitarian answers.You make good, common sense points.…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2010,05:19)What do you mean no matter what I believe? The scriptures say God dwells in us now? Do you deny these facts also? And no there is no scripture that says the Father is physically coming quickly to the earth. He is already here!Hi WJ,This is why I love HN.  While discussing things with Lightenup, I get…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 29 2010,03:13)18 “As for his father, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother and did what was not good among his people, behold, he will die for his iniquity. 19 “Yet you say, 'Why should the son not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity?' When the son has practiced justice and righteousness and has…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,08:41)Col 1:16-1816 For by Him (the Son) all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities — all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. 18 He is also h…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,16:40)Nick,Our own theories is all anyone has.  You have your own theory too.  You think that Jesus was just a normal man like the rest of us but if that were so, his death would not pay for all mankind.  The scriptures say that a righteous man can not die in the place of the unrighteous man.  He was more than a man…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 28 2010,08:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,16:03)He is on our side and has our backs – at least the ones of us who worship and serve ONLY Him as God Almighty, just as His Son, Jesus taught us.Mike First of all, Jesus never used the term God Almighty for the Father when he was in the flesh.Second, Jesus is…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,When your done figuring out how much to pay uncle sam, maybe we can move on to “right hand means equality”.  Although I've answered to many of these points over and over, I will do it one more time in an effort to move on.You said:Quote In other words, you lied when you said that you were here to learn. How could the “when” of Christ's…[Read more]

Do you think the OT God is not the NT God?

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,08:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,16:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,12:27)One more thought, Kathi:You say it never says to worship God “ONLY”, but Jesus quotes Deut in saying:Quote Matthew 4:10 NIV Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,07:28)Jesus is not an angel…they were made through Him, see Col. 1.  He made all things in heaven, visible and invisible, remember.Hi Kathi,No, all things were made BY God THROUGH Jesus.  And although Jesus is the only creation of God that was begotten directly from God, there is no indication that he was more p…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:35)Jesus IS the outstretched arm. Isaiah sees this and writes about it and is confirmed in John.Hi Kathi,I should have rephrased it. Where is “the outstretched arm” worshipped as God Almighty?