Hi WJ,I finally found some time to answer to another of your points.You said:Quote For a Hebrew to give the same kind of honor and devotion to a mere man like Jesus required men to give to him would be idolatry. Jesus required men that would follow him to be able to die for his sake. Paul said he was a bond slave and prisoner of Jesus. So…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 05 2010,04:22)Mike,We double posting at the same time…Yah be Great!Do you know where Is1's other two statements come from. I wanna respond to them, for completeness, to support or to refute.Hi JA,I noticed that too. Quote 1 Corinthians 2:8 NIV None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 04 2010,19:38)He is LORDHi Paul,LORD is how most translations render the divine name JHVH or Jehovah.  The trinitarians think that the godhead consists of three separate yet equal persons – Father, Son and Holy Spirit.  Claiming that Jesus is JHVH doesn't even fit into your flawed view of God, since they are SEPARATE i…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 04 2010,08:21)No, we're not brothers. You've invested your faith in a counterfeit Christ, hence you're a counterfeit Christian.Hi Paul,My faith is solidly rested in the Christ the Bible teaches. The one sent from God, not the one the trinitarians invented that is God. The one who says his Father is greater than him. The…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,Either I'm learning more and receiving more Spirit, or you're slipping.  This seems to be getting easier with every post.You said:Quote You have been properly instructed by the JW's and by myself that the term “firstborn” means “eldest son.” You knowingly and wrongfully insist that Jesus is the firstborn of the whole created order…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 04 2010,05:09)It is from Christ they received the reward of the things they did.Hi Thinker,All things come from Jehovah. That includes Jesus and any rewards that Jesus hands out.peace and love,mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 04 2010,04:02)Mike……..I have noticed people do that to, it is just a way of changing the subject, because they are back in a corner and can't find any sound ground for there dogmas. I like Is 1:18 a lot he is a straight shooter, But i do disagree with His (TRINITARIANS) views , he tends to agree with WJ and Thinker…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,17:28)MikeJust as a quick note, how does Paul saying that the Father is excluded from being under Jesus mean that Jesus is not equal to the Father, since he possesses all things including ALL authority and power and that he upholds all things by the word of his power and by him all things consist.You still…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,17:20)But Isa 1:18 (Paul) can spot JW jargon from a mile away.Hi WJ,Did I not say that while looking at Isaiah 40 because of a post from Lightenup, I stumbled across the “he is coming soon with his reward”? No Watchtower was involved. But instead of answering to Scriptures, it's a fail-safe for some…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 03 2010,18:16)I've read a lot of the debate you have going with The Thinker and have concluded that you don't deserve it. You simply refuse to concede a point, even when an avalanche of evidence washes over you.Hi Paul,Sorry, I thought we were all brothers in Christ seeking truth. The avalance of scholarly information in…[Read more]

Hello Paul,You must be real smart to come up with that beautiful response all by yourself. Answer with Scriptures or logic based on them please, not flippant remarks and insults. That shows hostility and ignorance, not intelligence. BTW, I'm not a JW.peace and love,mike

Quote (JustAskin @ April 03 2010,01:06)Mike,Your illustration concerning God and Jesus equating to Pharoah and Joseph is spot on.This illustration is repeated in the Book of Esther, with King Ahesuerus and Haman and again, the king and Mordecai.WJ quotes that God has put all things under Christ, excepting God, Himself, and the completely ignores…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,You said:Quote For you to insist that Jesus is the firstborn brother in relation to the whole created order is absurd. When did I say that?  You said:Quote Your “I don't care” statement is the proof that you are a “brick wall.”That's the second time I've used that language, and the second time you've called me on it.  You were right b…[Read more]

Hi thinker,No post today? I hope everything is alright. Just a quick question tonight.Do you think that Jesus rules over earth as our King at the present time? Or do you think we are still in the era of Satan as ruler and god of the world, and that we should be no part of this world?

Hi WJ,Wow!  You really went to town, dude! I said:Quote You are a little confused, I think.  Jesus did return to his previous glory.  The problem is that his previous glory did not include equality with God, either.You said:Quote MikePlease, show us scripture to support what you say. Follow the logic, WJ.  If Jesus was returned to his pre…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,04:30)MikeYou give lip service to Jesus position and who he is!The fact that the Father gave Jesus “infinite” Authority and Power and is sitting at Jesus left hand is irrelevent to the fact that at this time “JESUS HAS IT ALL”!The only reason the Father gives it to him is because he left it all to come in…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 31 2010,20:28)Mike said:Quote Again with the “black means white” stuff?  Okay.  No one can comprehend God, but Jesus, who we could comprehend, explained Him to us.  Why can we comprehend Jesus if he is God?Mike,There are eight different words translated “to see” in our Bibles. The word “explained” tells us what the word &#…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 01 2010,07:19)I noticed that you did not answer the rest of my post about Jesus rewarding those who do good with the resurrection of life and those who do evil with the resurrection of damnation.Hi Thinker,Quote Isaiah 49:4 NIVBut I said, “I have labored to no purpose; I have spent my strength in vain and for nothing. Yet…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,Just because you haven't proved what you set out to prove, I'm a brick wall?     I've been called worse.You said:Quote It uses the Greek “monogenes” for the Hebrew “yachid” which simply means “only” or “alone.”My point was that when translating Hebrew into Greek, there might have been times when there wasn't a perfect fit for the H…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 31 2010,07:24)MikePlease, can you show me where your claim here is true? Explain to us how if Jesus “HAS” all Authority and Power it is not “UNLIMITED”? What does “ALL” mean to you? Not only did Jesus say “ALL” Authority and Power is given to him, but he also says he possesses all things! Matt 28:18- John 16:15 – Jo…[Read more]