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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 07 2010,13:32)Quote (Ed J @ April 06 2010,19:06)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 07 2010,10:53)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2010,18:10)Hi WJ, Paul had a different God. He followed Jesus into relationship with the God of Israel. WHO is your strange god?Paul confessed Jesus as his Great God and Savour.while we wait…[Read more]

Hi Paul,I said: “And in all of the books that contain one of those “suspicious” Scriptures, there are many, many more by the same writer that make it clear that Jesus is not Jehovah.”You said: “Name one.But please do this after you've addressed the Hebrews 1:10 question.”Okay, let's start with Hebrews then.  1:1 says,Quote 1In the past God spoke…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 07 2010,12:02)WorshippingJesus said:Quote oseph was equally Pharoah to the people and he had all authority and power over egypt but Joseph did not sit in the throne.WJ,You are absolutely correct. Pharoah put his own signet ring on Joseph's hand which signified his equality with Pharoah. Then Pharoah said to Joseph,…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 07 2010,11:44)Ed J said:Quote The Trinitarians say: Jesus is “The Owner”. The non-Trinitarians reply: Jesus is NOT “The Owner”, Jesus' Father is “The Owner”!The scripture is very clear that Jesus us the “heir” of all things (Hebrews 1). This makes Him the owner.The heir is the owner dude. What world do you live…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 07 2010,08:20)It took special revelation from the Father to understand what it meant to be the “Only Son of God”, even the devils knew him as the Son of God and Jesus hushed them.Hi Thinker,Be careful, you might get a rebuke from thinker. Didn't you know that the devils only knew him as the “soon to be ordained”…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 06 2010,20:28)But please do this after you've addressed the Hebrews 1:10 question.Hi Paul,Is that it?  That's the best you got?  First of all, let me show you how the NIV translates Heb 1 10:Quote 10 He also says,   “In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,      and the heavens are the work of your…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 06 2010,10:51)“John 1:1c is the proof my friend for even if you interpret John 1:1c qualitatively, it still means what the literal translation is “And God was the Word” which means that all that God was the Word was, add that with Phil 2:6 that states Jesus was in very nature God (KJV form of God) then Jesus was e…[Read more]

Oops, wrong Scripture. Rev 22:12 is what I meant.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 06 2010,12:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2010,20:13)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 06 2010,11:57)MikeHe already has and you are not listening!Heb 1:10-13 the writer claims the Father is speaking to Jesus who is YHWH according to the Psalmist in Pss 102:22-27.Hi WJ,Yes, I should have also added, “And not where a…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,We are debating a lot of different stuff here, which is great because I'm learning.  But these post are getting so long again.Let me ask you two simple questions.1.  If, let's say John, wanted to write a sentence in koine Greek that said, “I love birds and are glad they are a part of 'all creation'”, would the Greek words he used be “…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 06 2010,11:57)MikeHe already has and you are not listening!Heb 1:10-13 the writer claims the Father is speaking to Jesus who is YHWH according to the Psalmist in Pss 102:22-27.Hi WJ,Yes, I should have also added, “And not where a writer is quoting the OT.” Now can you guys do it?Peace and love,mike

Quote (JustAskin @ April 05 2010,23:00)Is1,If it so simple to call Jesus 'LORD' because of a quote from the old testament where the author is praying in affliction to YHVH(LORD), his God, then why are not more, ney, ALL, references to YHVH(LORD) not also used to refer to Jesus?In fact, if it were so, why are we debating it?The Scriptures would…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 05 2010,18:56)So that's a tick in the “YHVH” box for Ed. Who's next up?Hi Paul,Let me introduce you to the “are you smarter than a 5th grader” test. Do you think Paul, based on his other writings, thought Jesus was in fact Jehovah? How about equal to Him?peace and love,mike

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 05 2010,13:45)Your presuppostion is that only the Father bears the name YHWH in my “godhead view” (what ever that means) and it's obvious to me now that you don't have even a basic understanding of the trinity doctrine.You need to learn some fundamentals…..Hi Paul,Can you show me where Jesus is called YHVH? Or Jehovah?…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2010,09:49)Why do you say that there is no Godhead? The Son is called Jehovah also, btw.Hi Kathi,Where?peace and love,mike

Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2010,08:41)EdJ,Are you only going to recognize part of the Godhead when you bow down?  Jesus isn't your Lord?  Isn't the Father-God? Isn't Jesus the only God who is in closest fellowship with the Father…that would make two Gods and those two Gods make up our ONE Godhead together with the Holy Spirit of the Father. I…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2010,08:07)Hi Mikeboll,Thank you for checking me out. 1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is “Good”(of JEHOVAH).Hi Ed,Hope things are good with you. peace and love,mike

Quote (JustAskin @ April 05 2010,06:36)Hi Mike,Sorry to butt in, but… Have you seen the recent posts where WJ says that Jesus was both man and God.I think he is stumped by his own doctrine and wants to bat for both sides depending on which side is winning.He has realised his error but his pride and the hooks he has created himself in his demonic…[Read more]

Hi WJ,You said:Quote First of all Trinitarians do not have other gods, but it is you that believes in other gods and that Jesus is “a god”. Secondly, the Holy Spirits ministry is to glorify the Father and the Son and not to speak of himself, though that does not reduce his nature as God , one with the Father and Jesus with one name. Matt 28:…[Read more]