T8:  Why don’t you guys focus on debunking Evolution. 

D4T and I spent many years doing just that on another forum.  And the more you know about their “facts” supporting it, the more you are able to realize just how laughably silly it is, how it is kept alive and kicking only through propaganda and blacklisting, and how utterly stupid we were for…[Read more]

T8:  What the Earth looks like from space

Hey T8… what’s that really bright “spotlight” upper center on the earth in that video title shot?

Mike:  IF you took Jesus’ claim that “the stars fell to the earth” LITERALLY, would you still say that there is no contradiction between scripture and the heliocentric model? YES or NO?

T8:  No.

Now was that so hard?  So our difference is that we DO take Jesus at his word, and you don’t.  Will you really ridicule us and call us names for belie…[Read more]

Thanks D! As usual, after reading the globers’ comments, I’ll now have to make another explanatory video. So sad when I have to continually explain THEIR model to them.

T8, please answer my question about the stars falling to the earth… and I’ll address your other most recent misunderstandings later.

T8: Too easy. Because it is inhospitable.

The further south you go in NZ the colder it becomes (generally).

Which is more inhospitable… the zero Kelvin vacuum of space… or the south pole?   We’ve supposedly sent dozens of people to the ISS, where human beings have been continually living for the past 20 years.  Are you seriously saying tha…[Read more]

T8:  Read my post again. I am questioning your assumption that every single star will fall to earth literally.

The text doesn’t say that.

Nor did I say that.  Jesus said the stars will fall to the earth.  He didn’t specify how many, or which ones.  Now, please stop diverting and answer my flipping question already…
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T8:  I’m saying it could be the atmosphere if the definition is it separates water from water.

And is that the entire definition?   Or is it also defined as having “lattice windows” that God can open and close to let the waters above flow through and flood the earth?  And as “hard as a mirror of cast bronze”?  And as a “vaulted dome” that “rests…[Read more]

T8:  …a trip around the world is only possible in a globe. You would argue that going around the world is following the grooves on a record…

So then you refuted your own claim, right?  Because yes, circumnavigation east to west is possible in either model.  Ahh… but north to south circumnavigation is ONLY possible on a globe.  So why do you…[Read more]

Mike:  According to your model, every single star is WAY bigger than our tiny earth.  Jesus says the stars (definitely plural, presumably all of them) will fall to the earth.   

IF you took Jesus’ pronouncement that the stars will fall from the firmament to the earth as LITERAL – would you still say that there is no contradiction between th…

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T8:  What we are told in scripture is that there is the earth and above it is the firmanent which separates water from water. Science basically says the same thing. Above earth and sea is air that thins out.

So “air” is “the firmament”?  Is that what you’re attempting to claim?  Why not actually read this article that I’ve posted here before?  It’…[Read more]

T8:  …you need to factor in their culture and science which is not infallible. 

But I keep telling you… it wasn’t “Hebrew culture” that told Moses how God made the earth fixed on foundational pillars so it can’t be moved; how He made a firmament to divide the waters above from the waters below; how He placed the sun, moon and stars in that f…[Read more]

T8:  No contradiction. Stars fall to earth all the time. I have seen too many to count.

We’re told that our tiny sun-star can hold 1,300,000 earths inside of it.  Yet you think you’ve seen these mega-huge nuclear fireballs that dwarf the sun fall to the earth too many times to count?  Hmm…

According to your model, every single star is WAY bi…[Read more]

T8, please address…

1.  IF you took Jesus’ pronouncement that the stars will fall from the firmament to the earth as LITERAL – would you still say that there is no contradiction between the Biblical model and the heliocentric model?  YES or NO?
2. Can you produce a single scholarly article that claims what you do – that the Bible 

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T8:  Writers of scripture were revealed things by God… Some do not know the true damage their ignorance has done to fuel the Atheist agenda…  Imagine all the Atheists that are convinced the Bible is an ignorant book because of those Christians they met that were ignorant?  The Bible does not teach your model of the Earth and universe. Stop pr…

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A still shot from T8’s “proof” video…

And now, from a high altitude balloon that’s NOT using a fisheye lens to fool people…

Notice any difference? 😁

Btw, this is how the skies in Arizona have looked for months…

The first was from 8-3-19, the second from this morning… 10-26-19.

Compare with what we were experiencing every single day for the past couple of years…

Where have all the chemtrails gone?  And this is being reported all over the world!  Did t…[Read more]

T8:  But God divided our languages because if he didn’t do that, we would work together and nothing would be impossible.

Does that help you to see how ridiculous your argument is?  God was so against them building a TOWER to reach the heavens… but He’s suddenly okay with us traveling millions and billions of miles from our home?  Come on man… THINK!

T8:  Satellites, rockets, video, photos, mathematics, 100% eclipse predictions based on heliocentric model, Antarctic travel, Southern Hemisphere distances, sunsets, sunrises, Auroras, air travel, etc.

1.  Satellites:  Yes, we know there are thousands of satellites hovering over the earth – hanging from balloons that are steered by tethers that ca…

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T8:  The heavens declare His glory and since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, are clearly seen.

You left this part out…

Psalm 19

The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

What do we know from scripture about this firmament that sheweth God’s ha…[Read more]

D4T: Hey guys, why all the balloons?

I’m thrilled that Eddy not only had those thoughts when watching a video that had nothing to do with flat earth, but that he posted his thoughts here.  I choose to believe that while only a couple of people currently comment on this thread, many more read it as a guilty pleasure – perhaps like a bad accident…[Read more]