Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2010,10:15)Hi MB, More apparent respect for God would seem appropriate if you fear Him.Hi Nick,Is it not God himself who created us with a sense of humor, anger and sarcasm?  Lighten up, man.  God knows I was using sarcasm to make a point IN His favor.  He used it himself toward Job:19 “What is the way to the abode of…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,You said:Quote Did the Hebrew son still serve his father after he took full possession of the inheritance? I think most of them moved out an started a family of their own at that time.You said:Quote God is not my own Father but Christ's.You just killed the trinity doctrine with one sentence, Jack.  God is indeed the direct Father of…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 30 2010,08:00)“This is MY NAME from everlasting to everlasting” AND “It isn't important”!! This means that It is Jesus that we should be WORSHIPPING….Hi JA,Now I understand! The words “it isn't important” are not in my Bible. Now that I know about those words, I'm converting to trinitarianism. It is at least…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 29 2010,06:49)It is relevant if it is a lie against us.This is a lie against me and you know I nor Jack has ever infered that Jesus was more supreme to the Father.The way I remember it is my response to Jacks post was you misunderstood him.Before you make these kind of accusations you need to copy and paste what was…[Read more]

Hi Thinker, Is this a debate between you and I, or a place to post childish taunts? We are getting nowhere. Just answer to this post only. Then maybe we'll finally finish this part.You said:Quote Show where the Messenger is called God's servant.Is a messenger of God a servant of God? Yes or no?peace and love,mike

Quote (Lightenup @ April 29 2010,12:41)There it is, I explained how Abraham said Adonai/Jehovah in verse 3, and they all went along with it.  I certainly do not see 3 'men' speaking in unison “”So do, as you have said.”Do you see what I mean?Hi Kathi,I do see what you mean.  And I agree that if the “adonai” switch happened for the reason the W…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 29 2010,07:33)Its almost the same thing when you number their sentences and respond because it is a diversionary tactic IMO that makes it harder to read and give you an edge because the reader is reading your response without it being in light of the one you are responding too.Hi WJ, Agreed. Won't happen again.mike

Okay Thinker,You said:Quote Okay Mike, you have two hurdles to jump. The first is to show a scriptural example of the plural of majesty mode of speech by kings in the Bible.Not there that I am aware of.You said:Quote The second is to show that secular kings in biblical times used such a mode of speech.I'm getting closer to doing that.  This is…[Read more]

Hi Ed,WJ's not the boss of me! Point taken. It does read better quote by quote, too. I'll stick with that in the future.peace and love,mike

Come on now, thinker   Speak the truth.You said:Quote Acts 4 does not say that Jesus is still a servant. The word is not “servant” but “child.” Though the child was a servant the fully investitured son was not.When will you stop being a servant of God?  When you're 50?  100?  After you're resurrected?  How about if you were an angel?  Surely angel…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 29 2010,03:08)MikeSo you say.When did he become a mediator? Was it not when the Word that was with God and was God came in the likness of sinful flesh?John 1:1, 14 – Phil 2:6-8This is why Jesus is the perfect mediator, because he is both God according to the Spirit and man according to the flesh.WJHi WJ,The when of…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 29 2010,10:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 27 2010,17:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 26 2010,05:30)Hey Thinker,I forgot you didn't answer my questions in your last post.1.  How do you get “persons in a single godhead” out of a word that means “gods”.  2.  Kings traditionally used this plural form of speaking when referring to…[Read more]

Hi WJ,You said:Quote No those are not my words but yours. Not true.  I never called Jesus a “smaller god”.  Don't lie.I gave you a part of John 3:16-17 16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent forth his S…[Read more]

You know, I haven't even read your fourth previous post, and you keep adding pages. Are all of these to my one reply? I just skimmed them, and a lot of the language is angry and confrontational. Are you mad? Why? Does the truth upset you when it turns out to be something other than what you had thought? I'm starting to read the first reply…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 28 2010,03:09)MikeIs the Preist, Mediator and God One?Carefull how you answer! WJIs this a trick question because God will judge (or mediate) between his people personally in New Jerusalem?This is from Dictionary.com,Word Origin & Historymediatorc.1300, from L.L. mediatorem (nom. mediator) “one who mediates,” from…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 28 2010,03:05)Mike1.  Acts 4 is inconclusive as it has been shown to you. 2.  Does Acts 4 invalidate all the scripture I have given you?3.  You keep claiming Jesus has no authority and power of his own when it all is his.4.  You also keep denying that he is “YET” to subject the Kingdom and himself to the Father, 1 C…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,I didn't get an answer yet and just wanted to make sure you saw my post.  Whether the “educated guess” as to why the tetragrammaton was changed to adonai is correct or not, the fact remains the in the oldest manuscripts, the tetragrammaton was used.In 134 places the Jewish Sopherim (scribes) altered the original Hebrew text from YHWH to…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 28 2010,07:13)1.He was begotten as in born of God and not created before creation.2.He was created directly by God and then all things were created through the first one that was created.3. He began being a son in Mary.4. He began being a son at the Jordan baptism.5. He began being a son at the resurrection.Hi Kathi,I…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 27 2010,19:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 27 2010,14:27)I'm going to answer your points, after which you can choose to respond or not.  I'll pass.Hi Paul,That's okay. I was afraid I might have turned up too much heat on you all at once. Next time we talk, I'll take baby steps. peace and love to you,mike

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 26 2010,05:30)Hey Thinker,I forgot you didn't answer my questions in your last post.1.  How do you get “persons in a single godhead” out of a word that means “gods”.  2.  Kings traditionally used this plural form of speaking when referring to themselves.  Do you think that they:a.  Thought themselves to be a “plu…[Read more]