Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 02 2010,03:47)MikeWhen are you guys going to talk about Matthew 28:19 and its authentictiy which is proof that “a Trinity” exist.Let me see the AT logic goes like this…Because I am the Son of my Father is proof I am not human!Men only knew what Jesus being the Only Unique Son of God meant by revelation.Nothing has…[Read more]

Hi WJ,I have never seen the phrase God/Man in the Bible. You are inventing deities.peace and love,mike

Quote (Ed J @ May 02 2010,01:00)Hi JustAskin,What we have here is a lack of communication (Cool hand Luke).Hi Ed,Wasn't it “a failure to comunicate”? Or was that “Smokey and the Bandit”? peace and love,mike

Quote (karmarie @ May 02 2010,00:03)Even my child can understand There is God, then there is His Son… Never mind.Hi Karmarie,Exactly!25 At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to babes. 26…[Read more]

WJ,You quoted:It has been claimed that Eusebius of Caesarea, c. 263–339 had an original copy of Matthew which did not contain the verse. However there is no such evidence and can only be considered as a fabrication made by the ATs. It would also contradict the fact that Eusebius was a prominent figure at the Council of Nicene. Not to mention his o…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,I just cut this from a WJ topic.It has been claimed that Eusebius of Caesarea, c. 263–339 had an original copy of Matthew which did not contain the verse. However there is no such evidence and can only be considered as a fabrication made by the ATs. It would also contradict the fact that Eusebius was a prominent figure at the Council o…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2010,17:39)IreneJesus and Matthew and the Apostles did.Matthew 28:19 reveals a Trinity, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, right?Hi WJ,Jesus said there is only one true God – the Father.  Every single writer of the NT knew that Jesus was the Son of God, not God himself.  Jesus never implied he was God, o…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 01 2010,18:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 01 2010,01:17)Hi Kathi,You said:Quote Well, I am not convinced that the oldest manuscripts have 'Jehovah' in 19:18 (that is what you meant, right) what made me reconsider that Lot may be praying is the different word he used in 19:18 for 'Lord' than the one he used for 'lords' in…[Read more]

Hi WJ,Thanks for the short post! You said:Quote True believers? In what?  You missed it?  Trinity Reasonings = Unsubstantiated Excrement. You said:Quote The NWT is always in question because of the evidence I have given you of the Translators bias and their dishonesty!  I offered you a challenge a while back to show Scripture by Scripture wh…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 01 2010,17:09)It seems to me that the name that means 'Jehovah Saves' would be a good name to include the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.  Jehovah is the name of the Father and the Son in the OT and 'Jehovah Saves' is applicable to the Father and to the Son in the NT.  They are all Jehovah Saves, the name above all n…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,You said:Quote Well, I am not convinced that the oldest manuscripts have 'Jehovah' in 19:18 (that is what you meant, right) what made me reconsider that Lot may be praying is the different word he used in 19:18 for 'Lord' than the one he used for 'lords' in 19:2.Yes, that is what I meant.  Why would anyone make up such a thing?  What p…[Read more]

Quote (Elizabeth @ May 01 2010,14:34)If I were you, Pastor I would reconsider my stand on the trinity and take heed….Hi Irene,I agree and would like to add James 3:1,3 Not many of YOU should become teachers, my brothers, knowing that we shall receive heavier judgment. And Luke 11:52,52″Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away…[Read more]

Hi Jerry,Great stuff! Thanks! peace and love,mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 30 2010,18:00)MikeGo ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in “the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost”: Matt 28:19These are the words of Jesus.Better than alluding to it, this verse has a singular name for three and all having the definite article.Hi WJ,I wonder if that verse…[Read more]

Hi Ed,Thank you! The truth is in the Scriptures. Maybe if we live to be 1000 years old, we might have the chance to discover a tenth of it. peace and love to you and yours, edmike

Hi Thinker,You said:Quote So you cannot prove the plural of majesty theory scripturally.No more than you can prove the “plural god” theory Scripturally.  You said:Quote You did not give the link to the site so I can check you out. You must always give the link so the other person can determine if you are cutting and pasting out of context or…[Read more]

WJ,I'm in no hurry. I eagerly want to get to the bottom of the trinity falsehood, but we can do that one sentence a day, if we want. I'm not going anywhere.mike

Hi WJ,I don't know about you, but Jack and I are both getting worn down by these debates.  I simply just don't have enough computer time to answer a 3000 word post.  I agree that the Bible as a whole has the answers, not just a Scripture here and there.  Funny, I think it is the trinitarians who like to just take a Scripture out of context here an…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 29 2010,16:53)Hi Mike,I suppose that Lot might be speaking a prayer hear and then hearing from God.  That is a possibility.  The word 'them' could have just as easily been translated 'him' depending on the accurate context.  So, I think this verse is one that you would have had to have been there.  Lot knew that the ang…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,Let me say that I agree about the time spent on this debate.  While I love doing it, it's hard to come home after 12 hours at work and have 1000 words from you, 2000 from WJ and three other threads to read through to keep up with the posts.  That's why I only asked one question last night.  We'll get there point by point.  What's the…[Read more]