Quote (Lightenup @ May 05 2010,14:00)Mike is right JA but you will only find the NASB to translate it that way:John 1:1818 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.NASUHi Kathi,How about these translations?John 1:18 King James Version No man hath seen God at any time; the only…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 05 2010,14:00)Mike is right JA but you will only find the NASB to translate it that way:John 1:1818 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.NASUHi Kathi,How about these translations?John 1:18 King James Version No man hath seen God at any time; the only…[Read more]

Hi WJ,You said:Quote The word “name” is singular” Mike.  If the writer wanted to convey what you say then it would read as you say or read “In the Names” of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”, but it doesn't.The word name in my analogy is singular also.  So is the word “throne” in Rev.  What say you?You said:Quote Besides that wo…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ May 05 2010,08:35)Please can you point me to where Jesus was given the name of the Father.This one I've never heard. I will await Kathi's answer with you.mike

Quote (JustAskin @ May 05 2010,08:37)Please can you point me to where Jesus is called the Begotten God.Hi JA,John 1:18mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 05 2010,07:26)Well it doesn’t prove there is not a hint of the Trinity in the Bible, does it Mike? I have already answered you. Go back and read my opening post. I know what Jack means when he says you must have a comprehension problem for you ask questions then when you are given answers you just ask the same q…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 03 2010,15:48)Are you saying that the manuscript that the NWT was used for translating the OT is older than the Septuagint or the Dead Sea Scrolls?  There seems to be no mention of it online.  Keep looking if you want.Hi Kathi,Okay, I will.  This is from Wikipedia (JHWH):According to the Brown-Driver-Briggs Lexicon, &#…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 03 2010,17:07)Nick,Yes, I do accept what God said about Himself.  I also accept what Jesus said about the Father giving Him (the Son) His (the Father's) name.Hi Kathi,I told you all those capped “h's” would confuse things. Look at you using parenthesis to explain who you're talking about. joking with you,mike

Hi thinker,Take your time. Take a break? I don't even turn on my tv anymore. I'm learning the Scriptures here, man. peace and love,mikeps I'll look into Jude, and see what the “experts” say. Good point, though.

Quote (thethinker @ May 04 2010,02:47)25 “So you shall serve Jehovah your God, and HE will bless your bread and your water. And I will take sickness away from the midst of you.Hi Thinker,All of this nonsense boils down to two major issues:1.  If the “HE” is Jehovah your God, then the “I” must be someone OTHER THAN Jehovah your God.  Is that rig…[Read more]

Hi WJ,You said:Quote God of God does not mean Jesus had a beginning.I believe it says “FROM” God.  Is the Almighty Father “FROM” God?  Is He “OF” God?You said:Quote If so then the Holy Spirit which is “Of God” and proceeds from God would have had a beginning.  Do you believe the Holy Spirit had a beginning? Was there a time the Holy Spirit was no…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 04 2010,09:21)My response is the scriptures do speak of a trinity, and now in order to add validity to your statement you are even denying what a trinity is defined as…American Heritage Dictionary         A group consisting of three closely related members. Also called triunity. merriam-websternot capitalized : a gro…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ May 02 2010,12:04)The earliest manuscripts we have say that it was Jesus who saved the people out of Egypt:5Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. Jude 5 ESV (Critical Text)Hi Thinker,I have seen you…[Read more]

Hi JA,Smack!

Hi Thinker,You said:Quote You now admit that Christ has equal authority with God over us so I PROVED MY POINT.Once again, I see a trinitarian acknowledging that God and Christ are two separate beings.   You guys do it much more than you realize.One more point:  What exactly was the gospel that Jesus proclaimed?  Was it not that the kingdom of GO…[Read more]

Hi Thinker,You said:Quote I have answered you already. My view does not need to be reconciled with Acts 7. It says that the Messenger appeared in the burning bush. But Moses told the people that it was Jehovah who appeared in the bush (Ex. 4:1) Therefore, the Messenger was Jehovah. Thus the Messenger's voice was Jehovah's voice.Stephen said an…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ May 02 2010,12:04)Therefore, Jesus was the Messenger of Jehovah who appeared to Moses in the burning bush, who claimed to be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (3:6) and who Moses said appeared to Him (4:1) and who saved the people out of Egypt (Jude 5).Hi Thinker,How do you reconcile your view with Acts 7?30 “And when fo…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 02 2010,05:02)Did you just say “theological”? Thats not in the Bible either is it? How about “indescribable” or “Omnipresent” or “unattainable”, they are not in the Bible either are they?Mikes point is moot and so is yours!WJHi WJ,Does this nonsense really make your point, in your mind? The Hebrews worshipped one God…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 02 2010,06:46)WJyou answer the wrong questions;i knew that would be your way;my question;is the God of Israel(nation in Moses time) the true God?you answer;God is not the God of all natural Jews. The True Israel of God is spiritual now!my second question;;were the Jews deceived by there God believing that he was one;??you…[Read more]

Hi WJ,I answered you in the “elohim” thread:Hi WJ,I wonder if that verse could mean, “in the name of the Father, and the name of the Son, and the name of the Holy Spirit.”It is worded as such in Rev, where John says in New Jerusalem there will be the “throne of God, and of the Lamb.”We could easily read this as only one throne, had we not…[Read more]