Quote (Arnold @ May 27 2010,05:00)Mike  I am really so sorry that you went through so much.  I can relate to that coming from Germany and was there when the Bombs fell lost my Father never met Him, and all i did for the first years of my life lived it up.  No drinks or alcohol but never came Home until 2A.M. i did go to Night School and learn fi…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 26 2010,17:08)I didnt realize how old you were lol……No offense….Hi Dennison,       Doesn't Proverbs say gray hair is like a throne or something else good?  Getting older sure beats the alternative! You said:Quote So the Father doesnt know the name either?I've always read that scripture with a inferred dis…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 27 2010,09:48)JackExactly! Jesus nor the Apostles spoke the name of the Father either!You were there, WJ? There is proof that YHWH was in early LXX MSS. How do you know for sure they didn't actually say “Yahweh” and it was later sustituted with “Lord” or “God”?peace and love,mike

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2010,15:15)Hi MB, FutilityHi Nick,Where ya been for the last couple days. I missed you. And I hope not, but you are probably right.peace and love,mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 27 2010,09:40)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 26 2010,17:04)So Jesus is a true Theos and the Father is not the ONLY true Theos. Correct? Yep, another one of those “title confusion tricks”. THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUE GOD BUT THERE ARE OTHER TRUE GODS! Yet YHWH says…YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “even my…[Read more]

Hi Roo,I'm worried about you, man.  You're losing it.  David, JA and Dennison all showed you where angels are called the “sons of God”.  You come up with this as a denial to JA:Quote The Hebrew “ben elohim” may also be translated simply as “mighty ones”. Hebrews 1 is CLEAR that God NEVER called an angel His son.”To which of the angels did He ev…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 26 2010,08:09)t8Of course you deny then that the Father is not your Lord is that right? Because you must be consistent with your understanding of that scripture.If Paul is implying that the “One God” is exclusive to the Father then he is also saying that the “One Lord” is exclusive to Jesus.But how do you deal with…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 26 2010,09:45)Quote (t8 @ May 26 2010,08:49)Kurioshe to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power of deciding; master, lordthe possessor and disposer of a thingthe owner; one who has control of the person, the masterin the state: the sovereign, prince, chief, the Roman emperoris a title of honour…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 26 2010,05:32)Mikeboll said to WJ:Quote Where is the scripture that says all three are one?Keith,It would not do any good. Jesus says that “I and the Father are one” and Mike denies it in the way Jesus meant it. Jesus was speaking in reference to His keeping His sheep in cooperation with His Father. Yet Mike denies that…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,You said:Quote Now, if your thinking is correct and Jesus isn't part of God, Now he is a PART of God? I thought he was a separate God that you also worship in violation of Scripture. But now you think “Jehovah the Son” is the same being as Jehovah our God? I'll answer your post soon.peace and love,mike

Sorry David,I stepped on a question posted to you. My apologies. peace and love,mike

Hi Kathi,You said:Quote Great!  Is He Lord or lord?He is lord in the Greek.  Don't get so hung up on the capital letters.  A noble man is lord.  King David was lord.  Christ is lord.  Jehovah is lord. You said:Quote So, don't limit yourself by what Jesus taught about Himself. I don't.  Nowhere in scripture is Jesus said to be “Jehovah the Son”.…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 25 2010,19:39)Umm no. Yeshua is the subject of Hebrews 1, not Solomon – so your point here is not valid.Hi Paul,Umm, okay. Jesus is the subject. So something said about Jehovah is applied to this subject. You think that makes the subject Jehovah. The same reasoning has to apply when something said about Solomon is applied…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 26 2010,08:14)Neither does John 1:1-3 or Colossians 1:15 say a word about God creating through Christ. Jesus is presented as the immediate agent in creation in those passages.Hi Roo,Scripture begs to differ with you.  John 1:1-3 NIV:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 26 2010,05:18)WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll:Quote What right do you have to accuse Jack for running and slamming him the way you did?It's okay Keith. I don't care.The debate thread shows and the two Echad and Elohim threads show that Mike and I engaged quite a bit on the right hand issue. We had already started…[Read more]

Hi WJ.You said:Quote I have claimed that Jesus speaks of “a trinity” in response to your statement “there is not even a hint of a trinity found in the Bible”. You were wrong Mike!Is that all it will take?  Okay, I'll rephrase what I said, even though you know full well what I meant.There is not even a hint of a trinity godhead that is made up of…[Read more]